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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_.45_(film)

were those pistols double action ?

did they use ball ammo or bullets?



he mentions using percussion caps,

did they change the whole cylinder when reloading to expedite the reload?





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were those pistols double action ?



What pistols?



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In that clip, they are single action cap and ball revolvers. I believe they are 44 cal, not 45. One could carry extra loaded cylinders, but they would still have to be capped before firing, so not that fast a reload.
 
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"You'd do it for Randolph Scott." I think the movie recently was shown on GRIT TV.

I think those are 3rd Model Colt Dragoons, .44 cal, used .457 round balls.
 
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did they rifle the barrel on ball guns?
or did that start when they went to bullets ?

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This Warner film concerns a pair of post-Mexican War, new-style percussion revolvers stolen from a traveling arms dealer and used in a crime spree.
The criminal was unbeatable because of the overwhelming firepower of the guns compared to the single-shot handguns used by everyone else in the film. The title guns used throughout the film were a pair of Colt Dragoon revolvers, in caliber .44.
Colt didn't manufacture a .45 revolver until the metallic cartridge era, in 1873.

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Everyone in the film is carrying metallic cartridge fed revolvers, mostly Colt Single Action Army (which was often chambered in Colt .45) or theatrical imitations of Single Action Army models.
Every long gun is also metallic cartridge fed, mostly variants of Winchester 73's and also capable if rapid fire.
Since none of the guns in the film pre-date the Colt .45, and all are repeating revolvers or lever action rifles using metallic cartridges, all the awe expressed over the stars' repeating side arms makes no sense.

Ironically, the guns that are the object of such awe predate metallic cartridges and specifically the Colt .45 cartridge, and are Colt Dragoons that were .44 caliber percussion revolvers.





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In that clip, they are single action cap and ball revolvers. I believe they are 44 cal, not 45. One could carry extra loaded cylinders, but they would still have to be capped before firin g, so not that fast a reload.

Why could they not be carried "capped"?


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Why could they not be carried "capped"?


They could be, but be dam’ careful not to drop one capped. If the cylinder landed on a cap, the chamber would discharge.

Round balls were typically used in smoothbore muskets because without rifling elongated bullets would start to tumble after leaving the muzzle due to drag effects and perform even less effectively than the balls. Rifling, however, provides stability and better accuracy to round ball bullets* as well as elongated styles. “Cap and ball” revolvers of decent quality in the 19th century had rifled barrels.

*(Unless it’s shot, all revolver projectiles are “bullets.”)




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Why could they not be carried "capped"?

The caps can be easily dislodged and lost.
 
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