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Originally posted by HRK:
Its not simply a company doing a half ass job or planning to use customers as beta testers as some would imply. Do we seriously believe that management has a meeting where they say, "well it's close, lets launch a multi-million dollar campaign with our newest product, put our reputation on the line and see if it works, no need to test....


Remember that no matter what Sig does we have haters who can't wait to see Sig's newest product fail. (I'd bet any company fail, hell they probably the kind of person that sits at a train track hoping for a wreck, or Nascar for a wreck)

No testing is as harsh as end user production field testing, nobody is as hard on things as end users, you can test 100 items from R&D and not have the results you'll get when 1000 or 10000 end users get their paws on it. Things crop up when you go from hand built R&D to actual production, it could be as simple as a cnc machine in the line having an issue that wasn't there initially.

Sigs recognized an issue, it may be small in size, or not but they have taken up front steps to correct what may be simply a manufacturing defect or flaw that reared it's head during live production.

Shit happens, the boo birds will always come out, the majority of those dropping bombs about never buying one were never going to buy one in the first place.

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Originally posted by Poppy6x:
I know this is a Sig Forum and I am a Sig fan, but I wonder about the size of the available market for the P365. I mean, how many people looking for a CCW pistol have not already bought a G43, Shield, PPS, CCP, LC9 (now EC9), etc.? With availability of extended mags and +1 or +2 mag extensions, betting on a one or 2 round capacity as a significant advantage is, in my opinion, a bit of a long shot. Hope it works out for them. Can’t help but wonder what would happen if they introduced in 2015?

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Originally posted by Exodus:
A lot of people said that Glock was too late with the 43. They missed the boat by releasing the .380 42 first. Everyone already has a Shield etc...

Glock still managed to sell a boat load of 43's. Hell, the Glock was more expensive and lower capacity than the Shield. Sig has delivered a higher capacity gun in the same footprint at a price competitive with the Glock (assuming night sights on both).

I think Sig will sell quite a few P365s. If it truly is the same size, it might replace my 43.

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Originally posted by Poppy6x:
I know this is a Sig Forum and I am a Sig fan, but I wonder about the size of the available market for the P365. I mean, how many people looking for a CCW pistol have not already bought a G43, Shield, PPS, CCP, LC9 (now EC9), etc.? With availability of extended mags and +1 or +2 mag extensions, betting on a one or 2 round capacity as a significant advantage is, in my opinion, a bit of a long shot. Hope it works out for them. Can’t help but wonder what would happen if they introduced in 2015?

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
The innovation is the magazine size / capacity - think G43 Mags are obviously not pushing the envelope, with lots of wasted space in the design.

Hopefully other manufacturers will bring this type of thing to market as well.

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Originally posted by EasyFire:

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
The innovation is the magazine size / capacity - think G43 Mags are obviously not pushing the envelope, with lots of wasted space in the design.

Hopefully other manufacturers will bring this type of thing to market as well.

Other manufacturers may have a problem as I understand that the innovations are patent protected.

EasyFire

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Originally posted by esdunbar:

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Originally posted by EasyFire:

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
The innovation is the magazine size / capacity - think G43 Mags are obviously not pushing the envelope, with lots of wasted space in the design.

Hopefully other manufacturers will bring this type of thing to market as well.

Other manufacturers may have a problem as I understand that the innovations are patent protected.

EasyFire

You said this same thing back on page 19 of this thread. I’m curious what it is about the patent application (Sig has not yet been granted a patent at all) that is so unique or specialized that would keep others from altering their designs just enough to avoid patent infringement? Assuming Sig is even granted a patent for this mag.

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Originally posted by c1steve:
I still think that if Sig made a longer version of the P365, it would be very popular. Say 14 round mag with a 3.6" barrel.