Is this HiPoint it?
https://www.bing.com/images/se...2527608639399&sim=11

Or this Cobra Freedom?
https://files.osgnetworks.tv/9...om-3801-1024x683.jpg

How about this Bryco Arms
https://www.bing.com/images/se...4034197556139&sim=11

Or this J.A. Arms?
https://www.bing.com/images/se...9284910817849&sim=11

This Jimenez Arms looks like it might be a winner:
https://www.bing.com/images/se...8393222480526&sim=11

Nope. Those are all pretty common for us to see.

Ref some of the ideas...I have emailed the photo to some of the cops on here and we have resources available to try to get it identified, but being Christmas, a lot of those people are out of circulation for a chunk of the week. I'll do what I can to post results when I have them.

It really sounded a lot like the old Astra 300 save the poly frame. Quite an interesting puzzle.

Please look up Zoraki 906 9mm blank gun. I believe this is what you have.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Please look up Zoraki 906 9mm blank gun. I believe this is what you have.

Well done, sir! That is 100% it.

Bet I spent about 2 hours throughout today looking for that. The internet is not as informative as it used to be..

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Please look up Zoraki 906 9mm blank gun. I believe this is what you have.

Well done, sir! That is 100% it.

16:15....
Damn that took a long time. I believe it's possibly the longest to get a correct answer here on the forum.

We're slipping! We need to up our game

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Bet I spent about 2 hours throughout today looking for that. The internet is not as informative as it used to be..

The silver lining here is that we believe the barrel obstruction had been removed, so it is likely still legally a firearm, which is bad for the felon that was carrying it and good for him being out of circulation for a little bit.

I did not realize there was something of a market to convert these things, but apparently there is. I have learned a bit in the last couple hours.

"Blank firing guns - the original 80% firearm "

Yes, I was curious about its barrel too. If the bore obstruction is removed, would it fire rounds. I dont believe the blanks generate near the chamber pressures of live ammunitions. Plus its a smooth bore. I wouldnt want to be the unlucky one to experiment with that.

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Please look up Zoraki 906 9mm blank gun. I believe this is what you have.

Well done, sir! That is 100% it.

The Golden Bear gets it!

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Yes, I was curious about its barrel too. If the bore obstruction is removed, would it fire rounds. I dont believe the blanks generate near the chamber pressures of live ammunitions. Plus its a smooth bore. I wouldnt want to be the unlucky one to experiment with that.

I found a vid online where some guy converted a larger Beretta clone blank gun to fire .380’s as a smooth bore. He kept a fairly respectable 3-4” at a supposed 10 meters offhand. Pretty impressive under the circumstances.

Looks better than I envisioned and all for $89.95 new and maybe no background check. Sounds great for the thug on a budget.

Looks like they originally have an orange barrel tip but that would go away with the barrel change.

https://maxarmory.com/products...?variant=34454450509

Good catch.
Converting blank pistols to live ammo is a Thing in repressive jurisdictions like England. Hard to see why anybody would bother here. Get your real gun from the same mob you get your dope from.

I'm impressed David. Well done.

Nice job, David Lee.

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Originally posted by Jim Watson:
Converting blank pistols to live ammo is a Thing in repressive jurisdictions like England.

It's a thing in the whole EU. Criminals travel to buy these blank guns in those countries where they're easier to get, then drive them across the borders into more tightly controlled countries where they're converted to live fire.

There are also some EU countries whose definition of a "deactivated" firearm is looser than others, and these semi-deactivated guns can be readily converted back to live fire too. The most high-profile example in recent years were the Vz 58s used in the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attack and subsequent kosher deli terrorist attack in Paris in 2015, which has been purchased as shoddily deactivated "prop guns" in Slovakia then relatively easily converted back to live fire.

Just saw part of a video which shows the chamber area to be 2 seperate pieces. States a live round would cause explosion. I questioned from the start how strong a fixed barrel would be mounted into a polymer frame. Then its got a darn bic pen recoil spring.. . Believe I would pass on firing that. I remember my 1st desktop computer, a Gateway system. Not knowing a thing about internet, a beginner could surely get lost. There was however more good information for reserch purposes. Seems like today the 1st 53,000 sites that pop up are trying to sell things.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Please look up Zoraki 906 9mm blank gun. I believe this is what you have.

How the heck did you find this? I would consider myself a pretty good internet detective but geez. I'm impressed and curious, What was your angle of search?

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Originally posted by David Lee:
The internet is not as informative as it used to be.. :

It's still out there, just drown in a sea of uselessness. Search engines certainly are harder to use than they used to be.

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Originally posted by crue-dell:

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Please look up Zoraki 906 9mm blank gun. I believe this is what you have.

How the heck did you find this? How the heck did you find this? I would consider myself a pretty good internet detective but geez. I'm impressed and curious, What was your angle of search?

Like fishin' holes and mushroom patches, Google-Foo means and methods are closely guarded secrets.



Well done, David Lee !

Unlike years past I dont have stacks of gun magazines, Shooters Bibles, gun books and the like for reference, we have Google. Pretty sure there was 2 guys at Google sitting there laughing at my busy serches. Prolly said to one another, lets throw him a bone.. . On a lighter side, I was moving from one apartment to a smaller one, maybe 15 years back, we couldnt fit a 60 pound box of gun magazines in the last load, I actually started to cry.. . Those MFers were mine and I looked the color out of them. We managed to get them aboard.