I read on the almighty internet that one should not carry the Ber 92 in the half cock position, because the half cock position was designed for the purpose of safety, and that if you carried it at half cock, you could break the sear or something if the pistol suffered an impact on the hammer. But all this time I thought the purpose of it was to reduce the take up and trigger reach for the first DA shot, and is always how I've carried all TDA semis, on half cock. I can understand that, but, if I'm not rock climbing or wrestling with terrorists, is there anything wrong with carrying a TDA pistol like that. Personally I don't care if I break a sear, unless of course it gets broken before the first shot. On the other hand, I'm not in a profession that requires it.

So what do you think, and how do you carry your TDA pistols ? Hammer at complete rest, or hammer at half cock ? Some TDA guns can be carried cocked and locked, like some CZ guns, but that's not part of my question here.

Any education and advice appreciated from the SigForum brain trust.

I don't carry my 92, but I do keep it at the ready as a HD gun, decocked with the safety off.

I can't say one way or the other if carrying it with the hammer at half-cock is bad, but the consensus I've seen from those with more knowledge and experience than me is that it's not a good idea.

FWIW, the reason I've seen some people recommend carrying a 92 at half-cock is that, when carrying with the safety off, it prevents the safety from accidentally becoming engaged while carrying.

Sorry I couldn't be much help. Hopefully someone who knows more will chime in.

I'll need to test that on my 92. Never thought of that.

Huh? All TDA pistols are designed to carry fully decocked. Any thing else is just silly IMO. Of course some designs allow other options but those are not applicable here.

Whatever position the decocker puts the hammer in.

Not all decockers decock to a fully released hammer position. For example CZ and HK pistols decock to a sort of halfcock position but if you pull the trigger on an empty chamber or a dud round you will be at full decock.

That being said I don't have the knowledge to say you should or shouldn't carry X firearm in Y decock status. I will say I carry at the stock decock status. (Half cock for CZ/HK for example). I will say in most cases I decock, I also lower the hammer softly with another finger(s) just to be safe and save wear and tear.

The Beretta 92/96 with decocker is designed to be carried decocked, safety engaged. Why attempt to reinvent the wheel?

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Huh? All TDA pistols are designed to carry fully decocked. Any thing else is just silly IMO. Of course some designs allow other options but those are not applicable here.

Actually, SIG TDA pistols and DAK pistols are carried in what is technically a partially cocked position. in the TDA pistols the hammer rebound spring rebounds the hammer until the sear catches is the safety intercept notch, a notch on the hammer that keeps the hammer from falling completely to contact with the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled fully to the rear and the sear is tripped.

given that the beretta is just fine fully decocked

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
The Beretta 92/96 with decocker is designed to be carried decocked, safety engaged.

or safety off, or just decocked in the case of the 92G or 96G

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Originally posted by car541:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
The Beretta 92/96 with decocker is designed to be carried decocked, safety engaged.

or safety off, or just decocked in the case of the 92G or 96G

Depending on the variant, yes. What it's not designed to be is carried half cocked.

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Originally posted by grumpy1:
Whatever position the decocker puts the hammer in.

This is the only logical answer.

See page 9 (bottom) of the Owners Manual (p5 of the PDF):

"Note: Some models are equipped with hammer half cock position. It is not recommended to carry the hammer half-cocked. This device is intended as an accidental discharge preventive hammer drop catch."

In other words, not a good idea.

http://www.berettausa.com/asse...FS_Series_Manual.pdf

My question would be why would you want to?

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:

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Originally posted by grumpy1:
Whatever position the decocker puts the hammer in.

This is the only logical answer.

I won't do any decocking that requires me putting my finger on the trigger to initiate. That is why pistols have decockers.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Not all decockers decock to a fully released hammer position. For example CZ and HK pistols decock to a sort of halfcock position but if you pull the trigger on an empty chamber or a dud round you will be at full decoc

HK does not have a half cock position from what I can tell. On my HKs you can barely tell the hammer is all the way down or not after decocking.

Hammer all the way down.



Decocked by decocker lever.

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This is why god invented D-springs.

On my jericho 941 i carry it locked on the half cock. This reduces the trigger pull by almost 1/2 the distance. Though reading this all posted above it may not be the best for it.

Sigs, hk, other cz guns all rest where the decocker puts it.