Well I finally got around to buying a P7 and I will be picking it up tomorrow. I have shot them before but the bug finally bit.

Plan on making it my CCW for coat and tie events. Seems like it will pack better than the 229.

Anything I need to know about these other than they get hot when shooting alot?

Don't assume it will "pack better" than a P229. The center of balance is farther to the rear, which means that when holstered, it will be top-heavy. A stiff, sturdy belt and holster will be more important than before.

You just bought the perfect CCW IMO.

I have the P7M8 and carry it in a Milt Sparks VM2.

Keep it clean and beware of rust. The steel is pretty high carbon from my understanding.
I and many P7 shooters find 127gr to work well.
Find what your's eat best.

You might check http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/

There are quit a few members from here over there as well.
Tons o' P7 info there.

Congrats.

The P7 is my favorite pistol to carry by far -- and I shoot it with more confidence than anything else I have. I ordered an OWB holster from K&D Holsters and it carries very well. IMHO, it's much easier to conceal and a 229...or a 239 for that matter.

The P7 is great until it breaks. If that happens - good luck!

Hmm. Always clean and oil it well before storage. The majority of them were made over 20 years ago and are blued only. If you're going to carry it, I'd consider a refinish to protect against sweat. If not, keep it under a film of CLP between outings.

And I'd use a snap cap if you like to dry fire a ton. If the firing pin bushing breaks (it probably won't), you'll have a hell of a time finding a spare.

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If you're going to carry it, I'd consider a refinish to protect against sweat. If not, keep it under a film of CLP between outings.

When I carry blued, I coat it lightly with Lee Liquid ALOX bullet lube... Yep, bullet lube. It dries fast, is extremely durable, and a form of it was what Ziebart and Waxol used/uses to undercoat vehicles. I have literally had the weapon speckled with sweat, and no rust.

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:
The P7 is great until it breaks. If that happens - good luck!

You sound like a man with a story to tell.

The P7's are excellent. If you do have a problem, contact H&K - depending on the issue (If you are not the original owner) - they may take care of you.. If you are the original owner 0 they you are covered..

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:
The P7 is great until it breaks. If that happens - good luck!

H&K still service them, so no worries here, but if you are do it your self and mod all to hell kind gu( think 1911), then you may have a problem since the P7 has many parts unique to the pistol and used parts are harder to come-by.

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The center of balance is farther to the rear, which means that when holstered, it will be top-heavy. A stiff, sturdy belt and holster will be more important than before.

very true. i opted for a mitch rosen ARG holster, and it's a much better experience with a proper gun belt.

also, keep the piston & gas chamber clean. most of the issues i've seen with P7s are usually related to dirty/clogged gas chambers.

I'd sure like to hear a tale of a broken P7. From personal experience. Otherwise I call Shenanigans.

i have never seen a broken P7 either. i have seen one (M13) that was cycling poorly, and the recoil became rather severe according to the owner. i didn't shoot it, but the owner was complaining that it was downright painful.

i did a little research later at the cult of P7 and found others had similar problems. i don't remember if this was the exact thread, but here is one where it is referenced:

http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ub...f=10;t=007153#000003

i should amend my previous statement to "the only issue i have seen," as that would be more accurate. my apologies for being flippant with my word choice. any other issues i have heard of are entirely anecdotal, and are documented on the park city tactical forum.

You will love it!

A holsters with a distinct muzzle back cant seems to distribute the rear weight bias pretty well.

I personally broke a firing pin bushing, probably from dry firing without a snap cap. H&K replaced it on warranty but it took a few weeks.

Try the search function over at The Cult of the P7 for holster faves (Del Fatti, Milt Sparks)
and most frequently replaced parts (firing pin bushing, drop safety spring).

Another one.

Help, my P7 PSP is broken!

They carry suprisingly well in the front pocket of my 5.11 pants and shorts...not my main CCW method but it works fine and the print doesn't scream "pistol in his pocket."

I thought I had broken one once (not mine )but it was a dirty gas tube. It was fine until I re-assembled the gun and then the slide would hang up. For whatever reason, that was when it decided to get hinky. A good tube cleaning and it was good as new.

Best - at least one of - CCW piece out there.

<internet rumor drift on>

I hear they may be releasing more P7M8's...yes after the last batch of "the last 500" - again...

</drift off>

Linda's P7M8 did infact break during a Bruce Gray class....It just locked up and wouldn't fire. Thankfully Mr. Gray got it going for us.

Ultimately we sent it in to HK. It reportedly had several broken parts (squeeze cocker mechanism related if i recall) which were fixed under warranty. They put in all new springs. We did end up paying shipping to the company, they shipped it back to us without a charge.

The only real negative to the experience was that when we spoke to the customer service person, he made a big deal about not calling in for status on the pistol. Just send it in and they'll get back to us. Well as you can imagine, they had the pistol there for 5 or 6 weeks and no one ever called us. I did finally call them. They located the pistol, you could tell it got lost in the shuffle....anyway, they asked if i wanted to change out the barrel because they also identified a minor degree of erosion at the gas port.

Linda loves the pistol and i wanted it to be perfect for her, so i had them replace the barrel at our expense.

That said, the pistol works beautifully and It is the only pistol Linda will use....well except for the model 41.

I prefer the "ARG+" from Mitch Rosen for my primary P7 holster. It is very comfortable and has a sturdy mouth that does not collapse. It is also very trim. I have the standard model and have no experience with the "Slim Line" model.

I think that the P7 is a dream to carry IWB. It has a very blunt shape that does not poke me when I sit or drive. I also shoot it very well and have a lot of confidence in my ability to quickly put rounds on target. Many people I have talked with also enjoy shooting the P7 series of weapons. I think you will be happy with your purchase.

Enjoy!

I carry mine in a VM2 and love it. It does get a little heavy though, especially for a single stack 9mm. I love to carry the P7 when I can but find I carry my Kahrs more and more because of the hefty weight of the P7.

The P7 really is one of the most innovative ingenious designs to ever be produced.