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Sharp Eyes, Quick Reflexes  |
Beretta.
Very mechanically accurate, but so what? 99% of the mil and LEO folks carrying them are never going to shoot a combat pistol well enough under stress for that mechanical accuracy to provide any value. Reliable, but again, so what? Every major pistol manufacturer is now building pistols with reliability factors as high as such a mechanical device can achieve (less, of course, factory QC fuckups). Glock, SIG, HK, S&W, Springfield, even Ruger all make pistols with lifesafety reliability. Where it goes sideways with the Beretta is: - Complexity. Ever detail stripped a 92? Lots of parts. Tiny springs. 3 handed reassembly steps. All things being equal, the pistol with the lower parts count wins. - Horrific ergonomics. Long length of pull means only folks with big mitts can be comfortable with it. The slide mounted safety/decocker is pure cost cutting bullshit. - No rails/night sights. Sure, some more esoteric models of the 92 series have these things, but the bog standard 92 doesn't have them where every other manufacturer has stepped up to these basic features. This is a combat pistol. Combat happens at night. ------------------------ The cake is a lie! |
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Voted PPK. Because anyone's collection can actually be complete without it. IMO, you can't say that about Glock or 1911.
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Blasphemy!!! Take it back!  Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas |
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I said PPK
Having one in a gunfight is just a bit better than just hash words IMO. May the road rise with you |
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Yeah, dude ... those "hash words" can definitely get you jammed up in a tussle ... better to "sling some hash" at 'em instead!  -BK "If it's all the same to you, I'd really prefer to visit the range." |
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I voted glock but only because they don't work for me and many say I am crazy for saying so. I don't know if that counts as being overrated.
"That which depends on me, I can do; that which depends on the enemy cannot be certain." Mei Yao-ch'en, The Art of War |
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I would have added the Bren 10 or S&W 1006 10mm
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My thoughts exactly. I will never understand how this ever became the military standard issue. ______________________ "Cuff him. Then wash your hands." - Sgt. TJ Hooker |
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I don't care for either the Hi-power or the PPK. I voted Hi-power in the poll.
The Hi-power comes with that silly magazine disconnect safety, a comparably poor trigger pull, and a hammer that'll bite me (just HOLDING the gun the damn thing is rubbing my hand). I know a good gunsmith can fix all of these problems, but this gun isn't exactly cheap. It's a single action. It should come with a decent trigger pull right out of the box. It should come with a bobbed hammer right out of the box. The magazine disconnect safety should be an option, or at a minimum it shouldn't cause the trigger to suck just by being there. As for the PPK, aside from 007 using this gun, I don't know that it even has much of a legend to it. I do agree that it isn't anything too special though. In a mature society, civil servant is semantically equal to civil master. - Robert Heinlein |
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P7. It makes a great paperweight. I would have voted PPK but the trigger pull does burn calories.
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I concur. -BK "If it's all the same to you, I'd really prefer to visit the range." |
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If it wasn't for 007, would anybody care about the PPK? It brings nothing to the table that hasn't been surpassed by other options. It does look cool though.
J "But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5 |
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What? No Sigs on the list?? Guess I can't vote then...
In reality, I haven't shot all the guns on the list so I'll pull a Barry and vote "present". .................................................................................................................. A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor - he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation - he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city - he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. ∑ Cicero, 42 B.C. |
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I agree with this except I looking cool part |
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I know, I know. I knew I would be the minority vote on this one. I will say you have a very nice example of one though. "Unfortunately, people who are protected from dangers often conclude that there are no dangers." - Thomas Sowell |
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what are you a communist? Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. |
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I voted the PPK cause they haven't been any good since Nazi's and Roger Moore carried one. I personally think that the anything made by Kimber is over rated and over priced...but thats just me, and yes I have owned a few.
Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. |
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I'm gonna go with the p7. Everyone i know talks about how great they are. They just don't do anything for me.
Meh, more for you guys i guess.  Kevin Karma? Karma is just justice without the satisfaction. |
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Sig P series Winning by a slim margin over 1911's? what??
  Guess the majority of voters are either lying or not commenting. I voted Beretta, the Hi Power would probably be close 2nd. ===================================== "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform." - Norman Thomas 1944 |
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PPK. Marginal defensive caliber, and hate the damned slide bite.
(hr] The Song of the Vermonters, 1779 Come York or come Hampshire, come traitors or knaves, If ye rule o'er our land ye shall rule o'er our graves; Our vow is recorded–our banner unfurled, In the name of Vermont we defy all the world! (hr] "I said I didn't recall the name." Lin McAdam |
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