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Howdy y’all,

Does anyone have any info on the US Postal Inspection Service P229R’s? I picked one up as a CPO, and it has absolutely the most beautiful double action trigger I’ve ever felt in a Sig. I’m curious when it might have been manufactured, and if they are still using the pistols. It has a unique USPIS serial number, so I can’t date it with our sticky thread with serial numbers.

Any info that you have would be appreciated. This is one of the finest pistols I have ever owned.
 
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The last I heard the FAMS were the last .gov agency with the DA/SA SIG.




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The only thing I know about the USPIS pistols is that they adopted the Sig P229R DAK in .40S&W in 2005. Before that it was a variant of the Beretta 92 (or 96) series, but I don't know which one.

I don't know what they're currently issued.



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The last I heard the FAMS were the last .gov agency with the DA/SA SIG.


HSIs still carry the P229. They’re waiting for the money to actually come through for the P320. It’s already been at least 2 years.

ETA: just realized you mean DA/SA specifically.


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Howdy y’all,

Does anyone have any info on the US Postal Inspection Service P229R’s? I picked one up as a CPO, and it has absolutely the most beautiful double action trigger I’ve ever felt in a Sig. I’m curious when it might have been manufactured, and if they are still using the pistols. It has a unique USPIS serial number, so I can’t date it with our sticky thread with serial numbers.

Any info that you have would be appreciated. This is one of the finest pistols I have ever owned.


How unique is the numbers? You dont have to post it all, just what makes it different.




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How unique is the numbers? You dont have to post it all, just what makes it different.


I've got one of these also. The serial number starts with "USPIS" - i.e. USPISXXXX.
 
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How unique is the numbers? You dont have to post it all, just what makes it different.


I've got one of these also. The serial number starts with "USPIS" - i.e. USPISXXXX.


That is correct. It's a CPO Da/Sa in .40.
 
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US Secret Service continues to use P229 Sigs (357
Sig). When I retired in 1988 from the USSS, HQ was
issuing Sigs to protection details in DC, then a year or so later, field offices around the US got
to replace the S&W Model 19's.

My retirement present to myself was a Sig P220 .45
auto, and I have collected quite a few Sig's since
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The last I heard the FAMS were the last .gov agency with the DA/SA SIG.


National Park Service and BLM still has a large number in service. Last I heard the NPS was going to the P320 in 9mm.


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Duh. It pays to read the post carefully, and not just the acronym. Roll Eyes


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The last I heard the FAMS were the last .gov agency with the DA/SA SIG.


Secret Service still carries the P229 in .357Sig. I personally spoke to USSS Director Randolph "Tex" Alles a few months ago about it , and he wanted a new service pistol with a light rail, and preferably striker fired. But, since he was fired, I doubt the changeover will happen any time soon.
 
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Originally posted by jljones:
The last I heard the FAMS were the last .gov agency with the DA/SA SIG.


Secret Service still carries the P229 in .357Sig. I personally spoke to USSS Director Randolph "Tex" Alles a few months ago about it , and he wanted a new service pistol with a light rail, and preferably striker fired. But, since he was fired, I doubt the changeover will happen any time soon.


I recall reading a few years ago that they were switching over to DAK from DA/SA. I don't know what the current situation is with them.



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The last I heard the FAMS were the last .gov agency with the DA/SA SIG.


Secret Service still carries the P229 in .357Sig. I personally spoke to USSS Director Randolph "Tex" Alles a few months ago about it , and he wanted a new service pistol with a light rail, and preferably striker fired. But, since he was fired, I doubt the changeover will happen any time soon.


I recall reading a few years ago that they were switching over to DAK from DA/SA. I don't know what the current situation is with them.


I am a former Agent, and one of my friends is the head of the USSS firearms program. I see what they all still carry everyday.
 
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I picked up a new in box 229 ICE with the DAK trigger , night sights in 9mm also has the Gov bar code etched on the slide . I has a very smooth trigger pull . the gun was a contract over run , box is marked ICE . Had the same Gov gun in 40 USCG got it in plain brown box DAK . Got them a few years back .
 
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The background of that gun would be interesting. I'm wondering if Sig had an IOP for Postal Inspectors.

By law, all firearms that are considered surplus, cannot be sold to the public. They can be given to another agency but aren't supposed to be in the public domain.

There are some rare contract over run guns, such as some S&W revolvers, that can be found but they were never technically owned by the Federal Government.


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I picked up a new in box 229 ICE with the DAK trigger , night sights in 9mm also has the Gov bar code etched on the slide . I has a very smooth trigger pull . the gun was a contract over run , box is marked ICE . Had the same Gov gun in 40 USCG got it in plain brown box DAK . Got them a few years back .


Love to see some pics of the Govt 229' s




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ICE issued the P229R DAK in 40. New trainees at FLETC are now being issued the DHS SKU P320s. ICE has approximately 15,000 LEOs so expect the transition to take 1 to 2 years.

ICE allowed P229 40cals in DA/SA as optional personally owned weapons for several years. There was also an ICE IOP program for the 229R DAK 40. There is an IOP in place for the DHS SKU P320 - it is basically a 320 carry slide /FCU with X ray sights and an X grip frame. The only unique things is the coating on the internals, supposedly the same coating on the GOV contract M17/M17.

The FAMS, USSS, FPS, NPS and BLM and I believe USFWS are all still using or allowing DA/SA SIGs as are the USPIS. I haven’t heard anything about the postal inspectors switching guns and guns accepted for GOV service cannot be sold or traded in so the CPOs might be contract over runs or guns rejected and then rebuilt for the CPO program.
 
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The FAMS, USSS, FPS, NPS and BLM and I believe USFWS are all still using or allowing DA/SA SIGs as are the USPIS. I haven’t heard anything about the postal inspectors switching guns and guns accepted for GOV service cannot be sold or traded in so the CPOs might be contract over runs or guns rejected and then rebuilt for the CPO program.


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