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Goal: Shortest Trigger Reach on a 9mm Sig DA/SA?

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May 13, 2018, 08:59 AM
ihbwotrr
Goal: Shortest Trigger Reach on a 9mm Sig DA/SA?
Which 9mm DA/SA 229 or 226 Trigger, Frame, and Grip combination would result in shortest trigger reach? I would assume Short Reach Trigger and E-2 Grip would be a start. Would Enhanced Sig 229 or Enhanced Sig 226 be better than regular frame?
(Excluding 225A)
May 13, 2018, 09:01 AM
USAFA71
My M11-A1 has the shortest reach of the two frame-sizes you mentioned. I don’t have a 239 to compare.


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May 13, 2018, 09:03 AM
USAFA71
quote:
Originally posted by USAFA71:
My M11-A1 has the shortest reach of the two frame-sizes you mentioned. I don’t have a 239 to compare.
My M11-A1 has the standard plastic grips, and is almost too small for my average-size hands.


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May 13, 2018, 11:05 AM
FenderBender
229 and 226 seem pretty samey around the grip, so SRT and the E2 or hogue aluminum thin grips.
May 13, 2018, 01:39 PM
92fstech
In my experience (just from shooting them...no actual measurements) it has to be the 239, at least out of all the "traditional P-Series" guns. The trigger reach on those is so short I can't shoot them without contorting my hand into akward positions. I have no problem with any of the others.
May 13, 2018, 02:14 PM
ihbwotrr
I want to stick with the 229 and 226 frames; does the Enhanced Frame offer a shorter trigger reach advantage over the regular frames? If so, which is more favorable - the 229 Enhanced or the 226 Enhanced?
Thanks for your help.
May 13, 2018, 02:23 PM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by ihbwotrr:
I want to stick with the 229 and 226 frames; does the Enhanced Frame offer a shorter trigger reach advantage over the regular frames? If so, which is more favorable - the 229 Enhanced or the 226 Enhanced?
Thanks for your help.
No, not aware of any difference in those frames. A short reach trigger and E2 grips is probably going to yield the closest thing to your objective.


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May 13, 2018, 03:07 PM
Sparkyk
I have small hands and went with the Hogue G10 grips on my P226s and P229s. Started with the checkered and then went to the Piranha. Just like the feel of the Piranha's over the checkered. No difference in reach. Also used Sig's short trigger. But have switched to the Gray Gun's intermediate trigger and even though it has a ever so slightly longer reach it feels much better. I notice no difference between different models of either the P226 or the P229. But the P226 is slightly smaller than the P229 according to the dimensions I have seen. It also feels smaller to me as well. Also the G10 grips worked better for me than the E2 grips.
May 13, 2018, 08:33 PM
radionicist
I have short fingers as well, and my solution to the long trigger reach on the P-series pistols was to trade for a P226 Legion SAO. Smile I love the feel of the Legion grips and lots of time behind 1911s and Hi-Powers makes flicking the safety on and off very natural.
May 14, 2018, 04:59 AM
Anush
quote:
Which 9mm DA/SA 229 or 226 Trigger, Frame, and Grip combination would result in shortest trigger reach?


Short Reach Trigger & Hogue G10 grips.


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May 14, 2018, 04:48 PM
jljones
99 percent of the people who have short triggers do not need them. If properly instructed on how to manage the DA shot, the standard trigger works fine. Even if they have small hands/ short fingers.

The short trigger really provides a hinderence in SA at speed and is just not worth the loss of leverage and trade off.




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May 14, 2018, 05:48 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
99 percent of the people who have short triggers do not need them. If properly instructed on how to manage the DA shot, the standard trigger works fine. Even if they have small hands/ short fingers.

The short trigger really provides a hinderence in SA at speed and is just not worth the loss of leverage and trade off.


My tiny Asian fiancée shoots a SP2022 and can easily shoot my 226 & 229 very accurately. Short reach triggers are horrible and interfere with shooting rather than help, especially if you are trying to shoot fast (or my version of fast).

What is it you are trying accomplish? Unless you have a medical condition limiting your reach I can't imagine any advantage to shortening the reach.



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May 14, 2018, 06:09 PM
Phelen_Kell
I tried the short reach trigger and e2 grip. I put the regular trigger back in and kept the e2 grip.
May 14, 2018, 06:15 PM
12131
Yup, I agree that the short trigger is just terrible in practice, although the concept looks darn good on paper. Very few people actually like it. Years ago, when I first started shooting SIGs, man, I wished SIG would make some kind of short reach trigger. Then, when they came out with the P228 in 2009 with the short reach trigger, it was a disaster. Trigger slap, pinch, or whatever you want to call it, that trigger was eventually tossed, and old fatty was back in.


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May 14, 2018, 07:32 PM
ihbwotrr
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
99 percent of the people who have short triggers do not need them. If properly instructed on how to manage the DA shot, the standard trigger works fine. Even if they have small hands/ short fingers.

The short trigger really provides a hinderence in SA at speed and is just not worth the loss of leverage and trade off.


My tiny Asian fiancée shoots a SP2022 and can easily shoot my 226 & 229 very accurately. Short reach triggers are horrible and interfere with shooting rather than help, especially if you are trying to shoot fast (or my version of fast).

What is it you are trying accomplish? Unless you have a medical condition limiting your reach I can't imagine any advantage to shortening the reach.



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May 14, 2018, 07:32 PM
ihbwotrr
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
99 percent of the people who have short triggers do not need them. If properly instructed on how to manage the DA shot, the standard trigger works fine. Even if they have small hands/ short fingers.

The short trigger really provides a hinderence in SA at speed and is just not worth the loss of leverage and trade off.


We will give it a try!
May 14, 2018, 08:18 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by ihbwotrr:
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
99 percent of the people who have short triggers do not need them. If properly instructed on how to manage the DA shot, the standard trigger works fine. Even if they have small hands/ short fingers.

The short trigger really provides a hinderence in SA at speed and is just not worth the loss of leverage and trade off.


My tiny Asian fiancée shoots a SP2022 and can easily shoot my 226 & 229 very accurately. Short reach triggers are horrible and interfere with shooting rather than help, especially if you are trying to shoot fast (or my version of fast).

What is it you are trying accomplish? Unless you have a medical condition limiting your reach I can't imagine any advantage to shortening the reach.



I know what Jerry does; are you a firearms instructor like Jerry?


Nope. What's your fucking point? I don't give two shits about your tiny hands. Just agreeing with Jerry and adding anecdotal evidence that a person with small hands and not super strong can shoot full size guns.

Good luck with your search, I'm out of this discussion.



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May 14, 2018, 08:42 PM
ihbwotrr
Bye.
May 14, 2018, 08:51 PM
parabellum
Manners, please.
May 15, 2018, 09:46 AM
Strambo
The medium reach PSAIT trigger with G10s would probably be a great combo as well to consider.




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