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I know we've had some other topics on this, but Icarus Precision started out making P320 Aluminum frames earlier this year. Given the price of the TXG Sig frames, I'd probably pay the $100 for the metal frame. This is the first one they came out with:





https://www.icarusprecision.co...ct-page/ace-320-grip

It's #380 and weighs 8.8oz. You can also get one with no texture if you want to texture it yourself or send it to someone else for some custom checkering. This model didn't interest me much.

Then they made one for the M17/M18:





https://www.icarusprecision.co...-ace-320-grip-module

This one really grabs me. It's a little more expensive, but it makes me want to build a custom P320 of my own. I do like how the thumb safety flares out so I can grip it like a 1911.

They've also got another frame coming called the "Tactical Carry." No pictures on their website, but there is an Instagram post with another frame, but it might just be the above without the safety. I'm also not sure how to post Instagram pictures of the forum since I'm not an Instagram member.

Either way, I might be ordering a frame and it might just solve my Legion problem with the Wilson frame too light and front heavy and the TXG frame have too bulky and slick grip.
 
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Nice.

But, how strong and durable are these? They are aluminum alloy, so are they being hard coat anodized for strength? I see no mention of this. All I see is Cerakote mentioned.
 
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Good question. It's also one I just emailed them. I'll post the answer as soon as I get one.

As an add-on, does anyone know what the status of the P320 Alpha frame is now that SIG Germany is closing down? And would that frame still fit in P320 holsters with that trigger guard?
 
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I know the pictures worked when I posted it, but it could have just been my laptop. Eitherway...

The reply I got back was Cerakote only. I'm waiting on a reply on what happens if the Cerakote rubs off.
 
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They look to be "in the white", or not anodized.
 
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Not a bad deal if you want to anodize it in a particular color, but the whole effort still seems like reinventing a reinvention of the wheel.
 
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I'd LINE-X the thing.
 
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Seems very rough and unfinished to me. Without being properly type III anodized it will start to wear on the first firing.


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I cannot warm up to them.
I wish that they would have gone for the "Alpha" look.
That would have made a much better splash for their product launch.

And checkering please, not golf ball dimples.
 
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So the grip is 80% of the price of the gun. LOL, yeahhhhhhh gunna be a no from me dog.....



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Nice.

But, how strong and durable are these? They are aluminum alloy, so are they being hard coat anodized for strength? I see no mention of this. All I see is Cerakote mentioned.


Anodizing does not add strength.
 
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Originally posted by 12131:
Nice.

But, how strong and durable are these? They are aluminum alloy, so are they being hard coat anodized for strength? I see no mention of this. All I see is Cerakote mentioned.


Anodizing does not add strength.

Ok, hardness. Satisfied? You sound like that guy who goes around correcting folks who say "clip" when they're talking about magazines.
 
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Originally posted by 12131:
Nice.

But, how strong and durable are these? They are aluminum alloy, so are they being hard coat anodized for strength? I see no mention of this. All I see is Cerakote mentioned.


Anodizing does not add strength.

Ok, hardness. Satisfied? You sound like that guy who goes around correcting folks who say "clip" when they're talking about magazines.


No I am not. Anodizing offers corrosion resistance, a bit wear resistance, looks nice and is cheap. Reading posts on this forum you would think that if aluminum is not anodized it is soda can strong. The quality of the aluminum alloy used is far more important. Also there are much better finishes for aluminum than anodizing.
 
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Anodizing reduces fatigue strength. It does not improve it. Anodizing never increases fatigue strength. There is more than one kind of anodizing, and the thickness has a direct impact on the reduction in strength that is created by anodizing a part or component.

It also depends on what's being anodized; aluminum sheet strength can be reduced by fifty percent in strength. A thicker part strength compromise is less.

Hard anodizing will have significantly reduced part strength, but increased wear resistance, to a point.

Anodizing introduces stress risers and the potential for part failure. Where color is the primary purpose of the anodizing, it's a tradeoff for appearance and aesthetics over part integrity.

The same is not true of coatings such as cerakote.
 
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Hard anodizing is appx. 70 rockwell C and .002 (appx.) thick. It does offer wear resistance.
 
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I believe that Bruce Gray has posted details before describing the life reduction in Sig frames when the anodizing is removed, and CCR won't remove anodizing when refinishing a firearm frame, for the same reason.

Anodizing used in the correct location on the correct part as a design feature is integral to the design and function of that part and that specific application.

There is a trade off in most design functions: a part made stronger in one aspect is weakened in another: a part given increased wear resistance will come at another cost, whether it's weight, fatigue life, dimension, etc.

It's important to understand what the application is, and why it's there. It's not semantics.
 
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What wear does the P320 grip module experience that anodizing would help prevent?

Unlike Classic line SIG pistols whose slides ride on the aluminum (sometimes steel) frame rails, the P320s I’m familiar with have a stainless steel insert in the grip module. The insert (technically the frame) has four tabs that the slide engage and ride on. I have never noticed any contact or friction between the polymer grip module and the slide as it moves.




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https://www.anoplate.com/finishes/hardcoat-anodize/
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How is Hardcoat Anodize different than other types of anodize?

Aluminum anodizing is typically referred to by its three types. Type I is chromic acid anodize (or chromic alternatives) which are very thin on the order of 0.0001” thick. Type II is the conventional sulfuric acid anodize which can be decoratively dyed nearly any color and results in a thickness of 0.0002 – 0.0006”. Hardcoat Anodize is Type III which is done under more exacting process conditions resulting in a harder, denser, thicker, and more abrasion resistant coating. Hardcoat thicknesses can vary from 0.0005 to 0.0030” and beyond but is dependent on the specific alloy being anodized.
 
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Nice.

But, how strong and durable are these? They are aluminum alloy, so are they being hard coat anodized for strength? I see no mention of this. All I see is Cerakote mentioned.


Anodizing does not add strength.

Ok, hardness. Satisfied? You sound like that guy who goes around correcting folks who say "clip" when they're talking about magazines.


People who say “clip” rather than magazine need correction.


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People who say “clip” rather than magazine need correction.

Oh, please, it's the tired old crap.
 
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