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I have choosen to leave mine in. I don't find the trigger to be too hard, measuring at about 6.5 lbs on my cheap-O scale. And I want to keep mine more "stock" But if I had a newer version that I shot more, I might consider it. And If I were to carry one, I might consider the C&S SFS.


 
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I also don't believe that the HP originally came with a disconnect so in reality you aren't changing anything, just returning it back to the way it was.


Incorrect. The Belgians adopted the Hi Power in '35 with the mag disconnect.

The Nazis eliminated it in '43 to speed up production. FN brought it back in '46 with the post-war pistols.

C&S makes a wide trigger that is not prepped for the mag disconnect. That's another option.

I've removed the disconnect from my carry HP and my truck HP. The disconnect remains in my collectible HPs.
 
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The French wanted the mag-diso when calling on Browning for a new firearm .... Mr Browning would have made it without I'm sure if is wasn't for the damn French.


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Mine is left in for several reasons: First, I shoot it in IDPA, whose rules specifically forbid removing a safety device. Second, the triggerpull on mine is quite satisfactory with the magazine safety in, so it's pretty much a non-issue for me.

While removing the magazine safety might provide an incrimentally better trigger pull, I prefer just to use the tool as designed, and spend my time on practice as opposed to fiddling with pieces.

To me, the greatest "shooter adjustment" with the Hi-Power's trigger has more to do with the lengthy reset (as in pretty much needing to let the trigger go fully forward) as opposed to anything induced by the magazine safety.

Best, Jon
 
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I agree with roadrash. If you ever had to use the browning for SD, a lawyer could make quite a deal of your "rash and poor judgement" in eliminating an OM safety device. I have a HP35 (1977) - I've gotten use the the trigger.


The issue is whether or not it was a righteous shoot... not whether or not the gun was somehow more "safe" with a mag disconnect or not.

The FBI HRT remove theirs on their HP35s....

I say remove it.

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Mine is left in for several reasons: First, I shoot it in IDPA, whose rules specifically forbid removing a safety device. Second, the triggerpull on mine is quite satisfactory with the magazine safety in, so it's pretty much a non-issue for me.

While removing the magazine safety might provide an incrimentally better trigger pull, I prefer just to use the tool as designed, and spend my time on practice as opposed to fiddling with pieces.

To me, the greatest "shooter adjustment" with the Hi-Power's trigger has more to do with the lengthy reset (as in pretty much needing to let the trigger go fully forward) as opposed to anything induced by the magazine safety.

Best, Jon

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Factory trigger pull is not the best, but it can be overcome. I don't buy in to the idea of lawyers jumping to talk about magazine disconnect removed. I never heard of it being a problem in court.
 
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If you think you will keep it, then by all means take it out. I sold my last HP and am glad I left mine in as that was one of the questions the buyer asked (he liked that feature).




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Take the damn thing out. You can always put it back later if you change your mind.
 
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If you are going to keep the gun to shoot, I'd take it out. The trigger pull is better without it.



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I left my in, and the trigger isn't all that bad, compare to say a stock G17.
 
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Gents,

I have three Hi-Powers. ALL have had the magazine disconnect removed. It's a non issue in a justifiable shooting.
It may just be my military background, but if I lose all my magazines I' at least, want a single shot...

Wes
 
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When I finally got the nerve to remove mine, I was AMAZED at how nice the trigger pull became. I highly recommend removing it as the gun becomes a much more enjoyable shooter.

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Take the damn thing out. You can always put it back later if you change your mind.


agreed. The disconnect severely affects the already rough standard trigger.
While you're at it replace the sear with a hardened one and have it stoned, might as well replace the hammer too, and the mainspring, and go to a single sided safety, new grips, heinie sights and ... oh never mind.


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Get rid of it. The trigger pull will improve and you'll shoot and enjoy it more.



i agree with bmr. in fact, i have had two 1980 's vintage high powers and the magazine disconnect is the feature, ultimately, that persuaded me to get rid of both of them. what a nonsense mechanical feature built in to an otherwise fine pistol. it imparted a gritty unnecessarily- heavy feel attributable to the excess linkage that i thought was unacceptable . i would not buy another hi power.
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Get rid of it. The trigger pull will improve and you'll shoot and enjoy it more.



i agree with bmr. in fact, i have had two 1980 's vintage high powers and the magazine disconnect is the feature, ultimately, that persuaded me to get rid of both of them. what a nonsense mechanical feature built in to an otherwise fine pistol. it imparted a gritty unnecessarily- heavy feel attributable to the excess linkage that i thought was unacceptable . i would not buy another hi power.
pistolero

Uhm...I think you missed the point of the quoted post. I BELIEVE he ment get rid of the MAG SAFETY NOT the pistol. Roll Eyes
 
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Originally posted by hberttmank:
If you are going to keep the gun to shoot, I'd take it out. The trigger pull is better without it.


I would take the mag disconnect safety out. It can easily be put back in if needed.
 
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Get rid of it. The trigger pull will improve and you'll shoot and enjoy it more.

uhm, i got the point of the post! making a point of my own about the pistol in question, thanks very much.

i agree with bmr. in fact, i have had two 1980 's vintage high powers and the magazine disconnect is the feature, ultimately, that persuaded me to get rid of both of them. what a nonsense mechanical feature built in to an otherwise fine pistol. it imparted a gritty unnecessarily- heavy feel attributable to the excess linkage that i thought was unacceptable . i would not buy another hi power.
pistolero

Uhm...I think you missed the point of the quoted post. I BELIEVE he ment get rid of the MAG SAFETY NOT the pistol. Roll Eyes
 
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Pistolero, you really ought to shoot a Hi-Power that has had the mag safety removed...it's makes a HUGE difference. The BHP is an all time classic pistol that comes alive after the minor surgery.
 
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I would take the mag disconnect safety out. It can easily be put back in if needed.


I agree , mine is stored is a little bag . Vastly improved the trigger pull .
 
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I was trying to lower the hammer of a HP at a gun store after looking it over, and for some reason it just would not go down. Then it hit me like a freight train, MAGAZINE DISCONNECT SAFETY! Then I remembered what a retarded feature it is Roll Eyes
 
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