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November 09, 2020, 03:44 PM
Skins2881
1984 P226... Found it Bought it Love it
Beautiful pistol. Glad she worked perfectly for you.



Jesse

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November 09, 2020, 05:38 PM
.38supersig
Also of note, yours is one of the first pistols to be stamped as 9mm Para instead of 9mm Luger that the earlier models were.




November 09, 2020, 06:35 PM
KPSquared
That’s a nice one.


Thanks,
KPSquared
November 09, 2020, 07:01 PM
NMDave
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Also of note, yours is one of the first pistols to be stamped as 9mm Para instead of 9mm Luger that the earlier models were.


Interesting... thanks for the info


Dave
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November 09, 2020, 10:24 PM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Also of note, yours is one of the first pistols to be stamped as 9mm Para instead of 9mm Luger that the earlier models were.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have yet to see any P226 factory barrel stamped with "Luger" on it, including the early ones that I'm familiar with. Any chance it was one of the P220 9mm that were stamped "Luger" and not the P226?

If you have any pics of a P226 Luger marked barrel I'd love to see them.
November 10, 2020, 04:06 PM
.38supersig
Kinda thinking it was a P226 from 1984:






November 10, 2020, 04:37 PM
NMDave
[QUOTE]Originally posted by .38supersig:
Kinda thinking it was a P226 from 1984:

This definitely suggests they changed from “Luger” to “Para” sometime in 1984 somewhere in the 1,200 or so produced between ours. I checked but I guess they weren’t indicating a month on the grips back then.


Dave
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November 10, 2020, 05:01 PM
.38supersig
At least from U110-XXX to after U122-XXX were from 1984.

Thinking your grips were made in March of 1984. Each of the 12 lines surrounding the two digit year represents the 12 months of the year. As each month passed, they would drill into the casting die/mold. This would result in a cavity for the material to fill and result in a raised bump in the final product. Since your grips have three of those bumps, it can be assumed they were cast in March. How long they sat in a bin during production is anybody's guess.




November 10, 2020, 05:25 PM
NMDave
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
At least from U110-XXX to after U122-XXX were from 1984.

Thinking your grips were made in March of 1984. Each of the 12 lines surrounding the two digit year represents the 12 months of the year. As each month passed, they would drill into the casting die/mold. This would result in a cavity for the material to fill and result in a raised bump in the final product. Since your grips have three of those bumps, it can be assumed they were cast in March. How long they sat in a bin during production is anybody's guess.


Something new everyday. That makes perfect sense. I noticed the three globs at 1, 2, &3 o’clock but was focused on finding an arrow pointing at a number Roll Eyes

Thanks


Dave
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November 10, 2020, 08:16 PM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Kinda thinking it was a P226 from 1984:


I tried a Google search but didn't come up with any examples so thanks for the pic.

What is interesting to me is that my Tysons Corner JE has an even earlier SN than the Interarms example pictured and it still has the standard "Para" marking, so I'm thinking that the "Luger" marking may be more of an Interarms specific marking rather than based on a SN manufacture time frame.

Does the barrel look like it was jeweled to any one besides myself?

I would think that the Interarms barrel is SIG factory, but I can't help but wonder if it is. I wouldn't think there was much of an aftermarket barrel availability back then, if any at all.
November 11, 2020, 08:04 AM
NMDave
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Kinda thinking it was a P226 from 1984:



Hey .38... With one before and one after both labeled Para, your Luger example seems to be the Unicorn. SWEET Big Grin


Dave
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November 13, 2020, 04:28 PM
.38supersig
Hey, I wish it were mine.

I asked the guy who owns it if it was the serialized barrel that came with the gun and he said it was all original.

Guessing there are a few things that show up every now and then that prove interesting.




November 13, 2020, 06:54 PM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Hey, I wish it were mine.

I asked the guy who owns it if it was the serialized barrel that came with the gun and he said it was all original.

Guessing there are a few things that show up every now and then that prove interesting.


I checked the other ad pics posted and didn't find any good pictures of the barrel. That barrel still bugs me, especially the wear pattern which just isn't typical of the wear that I'm familiar with. IF it is original to the gun then so be it...and my best guess is that it is some sort of an Interarms anomaly and marking. Somebody got a nice Tysons Corner, but they paid a pretty penny for it.
November 14, 2020, 06:34 AM
.38supersig
You may be on to something with the Interarms thing. Maybe they had their batch delivered from a different order (?) in some way.

While checking out some P220s, I had noticed that it seems like all of the Browning BDAs have Luger barrels and Sig P220s have Para barrels.

I have only seen one P220 with a Luger barrel and the guy didn't want to let it go (for sentimental reasons).


Check in to the SRT kit. The install is reversable if it does not suit your needs and the kit can be used across multiple P-series guns.

The grips I have on mine are made by Hogue (26170) checkered aluminum. I had to swap the trigger return spring (Sig sells them separately) to get them to fit, but I think it has to be swapped out anyway for a P226 of this vintage.

The grips look like these:






November 14, 2020, 09:08 AM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
You may be on to something with the Interarms thing. Maybe they had their batch delivered from a different order (?) in some way.

While checking out some P220s, I had noticed that it seems like all of the Browning BDAs have Luger barrels and Sig P220s have Para barrels.

I have only seen one P220 with a Luger barrel and the guy didn't want to let it go (for sentimental reasons).


Check in to the SRT kit. The install is reversable if it does not suit your needs and the kit can be used across multiple P-series guns.

The grips I have on mine are made by Hogue (26170) checkered aluminum. I had to swap the trigger return spring (Sig sells them separately) to get them to fit, but I think it has to be swapped out anyway for a P226 of this vintage.

The grips look like these:




Good info! It would seem that some early P 22X importers' examples had a few uncommon markings not found on most of the SIG factory imports.

One of the previous owners of my particular Tysons Corner had both the SRT installed and the AEP performed. The SIG SRT is ok, but, honestly I don't find it absolutely necessary and there are better aftermarket alternatives. The AEP is nice and makes more of a subtle but noticeable difference...but, again, there are better aftermarket alternatives, at least based on the one that I had the opportunity to try.

I'm curious, do the Hogue checkered aluminum grips fit these old bushing-framed guns? I didn't think they would.

Oh, and I'm still rockin' the old TBS (which worked with the Hogue rubber grips that came with it when I bought it), but have new style spares ready should it either quit on me or I decide to change to any other grips other than the OEM checkered plastic grips now on it.
November 15, 2020, 07:06 AM
dog44
Nice! I found a Nice 1985 P220 A few years ago.
November 15, 2020, 08:16 AM
NMDave
quote:
Originally posted by dog44:
Nice! I found a Nice 1985 P220 A few years ago.


COOL Cool I never would have thought I could be so excited about a 36 year old gun. But damn it is awesome!


Dave
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November 18, 2020, 06:51 PM
.38supersig
quote:
Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
I'm curious, do the Hogue checkered aluminum grips fit these old bushing-framed guns?

Sorry to take so long to get back to you about this, but I wanted to make sure before giving an answer I could verify.
I was able to swap the Hogue aluminum grips and the rubber finger grooved wrap around grips onto the bushing equipped frame.
The screw holes are in the same location (unlike the P220) and the holes in the grips are exactly large enough for the bushings to pass through.

Please remember to not over torque the screws as the early threads are tiny.




November 18, 2020, 07:12 PM
Modern Day Savage
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
quote:
Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
I'm curious, do the Hogue checkered aluminum grips fit these old bushing-framed guns?

Sorry to take so long to get back to you about this, but I wanted to make sure before giving an answer I could verify.
I was able to swap the Hogue aluminum grips and the rubber finger grooved wrap around grips onto the bushing equipped frame.
The screw holes are in the same location (unlike the P220) and the holes in the grips are exactly large enough for the bushings to pass through.

Please remember to not over torque the screws as the early threads are tiny.


Hey, thank you for taking the time to not only answer my question but actually confirm it by trying them out on your P226. All this time I just assumed that those grip options from Hogue wouldn't work on these early bushing-framed guns because of both the bushings and that they require a different grip screw size. This opens up some interesting grip options for me to consider!

Thanks for the reminder on not over-torquing these bushing grip screws. Good advice for any P226 owner, but probably even more so for the models threaded into the frame itself.