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Originally posted by abnmacv:
Bought Triple K magazines for an older Beretta and they do not fit. Considering painting the magazines, adding treble hooks and making them pike lures.

Ok that's funny but you realize the new pike bait is hot dogs right? Much more economical than painting up and modifying crappy mags.



Thread drift complete.

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Does ETS fall in here some where?

About the only time ETS mags regularly work have been with Glocks (and guns that use Glock magazines). That I'm certain was their first effort at making aftermarket mags. Probably feeling (over)confident about their skill set they branched out to other brands, and so far have had more negative results than positives. We've had more attempted returns of ETS mags for other makes (S&W M&P, CZ Scorpion, HK VP9, SIG P320), which we won't take back if there's obvious signs of use. Not exactly fair, but that's been our policy like forever. It's the same as it is with the guns themselves. So if a customer has a beef with an ETS mag, take it up with the manufacturer. Some customers who buy the ETS schlock know of the problems beforehand, yet apparently want to experience them for themselves since the mags are relatively cheap compared to OEM. Hoping against all hope I say, but whatever.

As for other brands: Wilson Combat, while more OEM than not, makes great mags that work in all sorts of 1911s. CMC is another aftermarket make that have run great in my guns. Magpul have proven themselves worthy with the Glock platform. While Butler Creek mags I run and hide from when it comes to the 10/22 platform. Even their steel lip mags hang up. Pretty much ALL aftermarket 10/22 mags are a sad joke; just suck it up and buy only Ruger.

A friend of mine uses ETS mags in his Glocks and P-320 and says they're fine as range mags but he wouldn't use them for carry, only OEM for that.

My own experiences over quite a few years mesh with what others have already said. Mec-Gar, Magpul, ACT are good. For 1911s, Wilson or McCormick (CMC) or Metalform or Checkmate. Never tried MDS, I used to have an M9 but only used Beretta mags in it. When I had Sigs I used OEM or ACT mags in them.

For ARs: Okay / SureFeed, NHMTG, or D&H are good for aluminum mags. Lancer or Magpul if you like polymer.

Avoid ProMag, USA, Triple-K, and yes Butler Creek.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
ETS. At least my personal experience. MP5-suck. Sig suck. Hk double suck. Evo suck.
no idea on glock but my local dealer says that he hasn't had many come back. AR no idea as well but why when there are so many great proven choices.

Didn’t Agony have like 50k through ETS with no issues through a couple of Glocks?

ProMag are great if you need a lot of practice with your immediate action drills.

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Didn’t Agony have like 50k through ETS with no issues through a couple of Glocks?

I don't remember the exact number of rounds, but he ran a lot of rounds with no issues in a pretty comprehensive test. As such they may be good to go, I have not personally tested them when actual factory Glock mags are so easily available and cheap. But for the others I noted I have personally tested them and tried to work with ETS to resolve issues and in the end they just suck. and their support system totally is incoherent and not in any way helpful. I wouldn't suggest that anyone buy any, even the glock ones which may be fine due to that alone.

KCI Glock mags have been 99% for me. Never a problem until I dropped a full mag on gravel. The base plate shattered.
I replaced all my base plates with orange Glock training plates and use them on the range. No other issues over thousands of rounds. I think they are a Korean military supplier.

Bruce