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Nightstand gun for damaged hands

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June 26, 2020, 08:10 PM
alptraum
Nightstand gun for damaged hands
So it's the force of the recoil specifically that's the issue? If so something like the Shadow 2 would be a good option, if slide manipulation is not the problem. Some large and heavy 9mm. Some of the all steel SIG models may be something to look at as well. If slide manipulation is (or you think it will soon be) an issue I agree with the others on a revolver. All steel 4" or so...627 certainly checks those boxes.
June 27, 2020, 01:51 AM
2000Z-71
Take a look at the Ruger GP100. Can be had in many flavors, styles and chambering; .357, 10mm, .44 Special. The 10mm versions will give you moon clip loading like the 625 in a smaller and lighter package.




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June 27, 2020, 07:29 AM
egregore
CZ 75B? Or other similar steel-frame, non-decocking model. Alloy-framed ones kick a little, but the heavier steel frame should cancel this out. The slide may be difficult for you to work, but surely you can handle it once to load the chamber. Cocking the hammer first makes this a little easier. Then leave it cocked with the safety on.
June 27, 2020, 02:12 PM
Scooter123
I have Arthritis in the Radial Head in both wrists and the first two joints in both thumbs. As a result aiming my 6 1/2 inch S&W 610 is painful to aim but a 4 inch 625 is no problem at all.

As for manipulating slides, I can work the slide on my Ruger LC9S Pro but and cannot clear the chamber by ejecting the round out the ejection port, I have to drag the slide back and let the round fall out of the grip. On my 45 ACP 1911's I am at my limit for working the slide, if the pull were any harder I would need to use a table edge.

However my 9mm Ruger SR1911 is a total dream to shoot. The slide is so easy to move I and actually use a thumb and finger pinch and I can actually lock the slide back without resorting to a convenient table edge. Recoil is also nearly 22 rimfire mild in comparison to the 45 ACP. Note, mine is the Lightweight Commander so it carries easily. I'll also note that I haven't a clue about what Ruger used to coat the frame but with about 2000 rounds downrange there is not one single visible wear mark anywhere on the frame.

I'll also recommend the CZ 75-B. Don't have one but have shot a friends 75 and it's a splendid pistol with a great trigger. If they weren't so hard to find I'd have one.


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July 17, 2020, 07:42 PM
Rob1972
Sorry to hear about your hands, that is a hard deal.
Without knowing exactly what kind of issue it is, I'll just say be careful with magnums in the revos, they generally make things much worse.

If you have a P320, this is a really cool accessory:
http://firecontrolunit.com/

It's my new night table pistol. Extremely well made, a quantum leap forward from the Adaptive Carbine Platform (or the various Ronis), and very easy to load & charge.
July 17, 2020, 09:54 PM
ersatzknarf
Have a CZ75BD and concur it's a fine pistol with a splendid trigger.

Have a very bum right paw from a motorbike/auto accident with resultant arthritis.

Warhorse tricked me into holding one and that was all it took.

For a double stack, it's amazingly slender and easy for me to hold with my messed up claw.

16+1 is a goodly amount upon one's nightstand Smile




July 18, 2020, 10:37 AM
Warhorse
quote:
Originally posted by ersatzknarf:
Have a CZ75BD and concur it's a fine pistol with a splendid trigger.

Have a very bum right paw from a motorbike/auto accident with resultant arthritis.

Warhorse tricked me into holding one and that was all it took.

For a double stack, it's amazingly slender and easy for me to hold with my messed up claw.

16+1 is a goodly amount upon one's nightstand Smile

Thanks my friend!
It was my pleasure helping you spend your money. Big Grin
I need to find one for myself someday.


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July 18, 2020, 10:53 AM
ruger357
Sounds like the revolver suggestions are covered.

If you want an automatic, and you are used to 1911/2011, why not a 1911 in 9mm? Practically no recoil. You could get some big ledge sights and rack it on a table of it ever becomes a problem. Very easy trigger.


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July 18, 2020, 02:05 PM
BB61
If it is a recoil issue, have you considered a FNH 5.7 or the new Ruger in the same chambering? If is a problem with charging the pistol, a HK VP series has charging handles at the rear of the slide that really work. If it is recoil, a SBR like the CZ Scorpion would work well. There are also several after market suppliers that make bigger charging handles. A Beretta Cx4 Storm is easy to charge too.


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July 18, 2020, 05:29 PM
MWC
The two softest-shooting handguns I have, other than .22 LR, are (1) a Springfield Armory full size 1911 in 9mm and the SIG 320 X5 Legion in 9mm. Both are flawlessly reliable and accurate. I think the Springfield 1911 in 9 mm is softer shooting than the Legion.


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July 20, 2020, 08:19 AM
ersatzknarf
quote:
Originally posted by Warhorse:

Thanks my friend!
It was my pleasure helping you spend your money. Big Grin
I need to find one for myself someday.



Know I can always count on you to do that Wink

Yes, you do need to find one.

They really are very nice Big Grin




July 20, 2020, 11:38 AM
yanici
Just want to add that Hogue makes rubber grips in all kinds of variations for most main stream guns. I've fallen in love with their slip-on beaver tail grips for my S&W Shield. They have so many to choose from and they will soften the shock as well as supply a nice firm hold on the gun.


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July 20, 2020, 11:48 AM
Pyker
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
CZ 75B? Or other similar steel-frame, non-decocking model. Alloy-framed ones kick a little, but the heavier steel frame should cancel this out. The slide may be difficult for you to work, but surely you can handle it once to load the chamber. Cocking the hammer first makes this a little easier. Then leave it cocked with the safety on.


You can get a slide racker installed too. Extra benefit: they cock the pistol up from the surface it's laying on so it's easier to grab

Slide Racker


July 20, 2020, 12:02 PM
2Adefender
A 9mm steel-framed 1911 is a very soft shooter, and easy to rack the slide.


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July 20, 2020, 05:47 PM
DanH
You could try doing a pistol caliber carbine like a CZ Scorpion 2. It would be a little easier on the hands, softer shooting, and while not "nightstand" sized, it can go behind the bed or in between bookshelves.
July 21, 2020, 12:49 AM
4.40s1nine
For a revolver I would highly recommend the Performance Center TRR8 327 S&W.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/f...enter-model-327-trr8

With the grips they selected, the felt recoil is greatly reduced. My wife has fibromyalgia and arthritis, and this is one of her favorite guns to shoot. Target load .38's really do feel like a .22 lr, and defensive loads aren't much different.

When you start using the .357 rounds, there is not much of a jump in felt recoil either. My wife could tolerate the recoil from target grade ammo, she just didn't care for the louder report.

I had a shooting friend that had a scandium framed .357 S&W and he couldn't stand shooting it at all. He saw me using TRR8 in a steel shooting competition at our range and asked me about it. He told me he was sick of the recoil from his gun. I told him that the grips on his revolver had a lot to do with what he was experiencing.

I offered to let him shoot mine and he really could not believe the difference. I had loaded some target .357 rounds for his first try with it. After shooting it he commented that he liked it and was willing to try shooting some .357 out of it. I told him what he just shot, and I had to show him the spent cases before he believed me. He put his gun up for consignment at our range before leaving and asked for my help in finding a TRR8 for him.

I liked the trigger a lot, and found the accuracy to be very good as well. I really liked the ability to take both of the rails off and put them back on as needed. I used a Burris Fast Fire without any issues. Using the red dot when shooting .38s made the lack of recoil really noticeable, as the dot just doesn't move much. The gun used to come in a neat lockable aluminum case with the ability to set up a personal combination. Some decent moon clips finished out the package.

I have only had 1 issue with the gun. It has a barrel shroud that would come loose after a couple hundred rounds. It didn't seem to affect function at all, and I only noticed it when cleaning the gun. I called up S&W and was extremely impressed and happy with the service from the Performance Shop. I have not had to use them in several years now, so I can't say how good their service is currently.

I didn't plan on writing this much about this gun, but I hope it helps. I wish you the best in dealing with the nerve issues. Good luck with your search as well.
July 21, 2020, 07:17 AM
PGT
We just an M&P9 EZ for my wife as she's had a hard time working the slide on most anything else we have. It has a raised rear serration that makes a big difference in hanging onto the slide. It's a lot nicer than I expected it to be as I normally don't care for polymer guns.

She REALLY likes our CZ P-01 Omega but with very little purchase on the slide, it's not reliable for her to work the action.


July 21, 2020, 03:54 PM
Anubismp
I'd go rifle in 223 with quality ammo and a light for the nightstand. You arent concealing it and you dont have the issues with any handgun.
July 21, 2020, 04:01 PM
ZSMICHAEL
I hope you have seen a neurologist or hand specialist. Is it neuropathy, arthritis or a tendon issue? Both hands? Hogue does make excellent grips for recoil and your grip makes a difference as well.
July 23, 2020, 05:18 PM
divil
Ruger GP-100 4 inch tube loaded with .38+P or medium .357 Magnum like Remington 125gr. Golden Sabre or Speer 135gr. Gold Dot.

Semi Auto - second the Beretta 92 series.