The M&P 2.0 compact is out, and they did what people have been telling them to do for years, make it in the Glock 19 form factor. I think this guns will do well for them.

But they now don't have a subcompact double stack, which is what the old compact really was. The question now becomes, do they need one? Would enough people buy one to make it worthwhile to fill this niche? Glock sells a lot of the G26/27/33s. So this size is something shooters tend to like.

But Smith has the wildly popular Shield (the one poly gun they came out with that really beat Glock to the punch.) Do they need both single and double stack subcompacts? Or would just have the single stack cover the market well enough?

I carry my 9c a lot and like it over the single stack. I hope they come out with a new compact model

I'm happy with my Shield .45. 7+1 in a pistol that size is great.

I imagine you want something that small then the shield makes a lot of sense vs the stubby compact 1.0

I think that they would do better from a sales standpoint if a 2.0 DS 'subcompact' was the same size as the 1.0 compact, and not sized to mimic the G26/27. As much as I like mine, the subcompact Glock is primarily an acquired taste for most of our customers. Its short grip is generally viewed as a turnoff to all but the most experienced Glock shooters. A full, secure purchase on the grip is one of those 'must haves' for the overwhelming majority of the gun-buying public. S&W would be wise to cultivate sales based on that attitude.

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Originally posted by Jus228:
I'm happy with my Shield .45. 7+1 in a pistol that size is great.

I rented one of these a couple weeks ago and it's damn good shooter!

Far less recoil and not snappy like the XDS 45s. Quite accurate, too. I've moved away from .45 as a daily carry round, but that Shield .45 really has me re-thinking this.

Back to the topic at hand, I'd first want to put hands on one of these new Smiths before weighing in. It does seem like a nice size pistol.

Personally, I don't care for sub-compact semi's in general, and would not be enticed by a double stack sub-compact at all. I am sure it would feel like a brick in your hand.

I like my Compact 1.0. I always thought it was a good compromise between a G19 and G26. I know everyone is excited to have the Compact 2.0 here now, but I'm don't feel that the G19 is "perfection" to be copied. Of course, my "perfect" carry gun is a G19 cut down to a G26 grip size. A new subcompact 2.0 wouldn't bring much new to the game. I wish SW would do away with the hinged trigger. That's the upgrade I would like to see. Apex would probably lobby against that!

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I think Smith likes the hinged trigger to differentiate their guns from Glock, given how really similar they really are.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
I think Smith likes the hinged trigger to differentiate their guns from Glock, given how really similar they really are.

I imagine it was also meant to address complaints about the Glock-style "split" trigger safety used on other most other striker-fired guns, wherein the difference in height on the trigger face between the "inner" and "outer" triggers irritates some folks' fingers when shooting. (It's not an extremely common complaint, but I've seen it before.)