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I am not allowed by law to carry hollow point ammunition in NJ. Does anyone have any feeling on the 100gr. Pow'rball for self-defense.
 
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JMO, I would NOT choose the 357sig or any small bore for SD/HD in NJ. PowerBall is about all you can use so regardless of it's effectiveness, it is likely better than any FMJ round. For NJ shooters, don't you also have 10rd mag limits? I would switch to a 45acp & carry handloaded FMJTC or soft cast LTC. Kalif. will likely go the route of NJ. Hopefully I am gone by then. Roll Eyes


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I believe NJ considers the power ball ammo as hollow point as that is what it is. They put the ball in a hollow point to aid in feeding.


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The following is a copy of an E-Mail I sent & the response from Evan Nappen-a New Jersey Attorney & Author on gun owers rights. You can use hollowpoints only for home defense and shooting at your local range. Here is the E- Mail I recieved-

Subject:Re: Hollowpoint ammo
Date:Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:13:02 PM
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Hollowpoint ammo may be used for home defense.


To: gunlaw3@verizon.net
Subject: Fw: Hollowpoint ammo

----- Original Message ----- to: gunlaw1@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:52 PMSubject: Hollowpoint ammo
I heard about you through a gun salesman that worked in Zeus's Sporting good
store in Pleasantville, N.J. He stated that when confronted in a home defense
situation with lethal force you can use hollowpoint ammo to defend yourself in
your home. I kindly ask for any information you can provide pertaining to the
fore-mentioned home defense issue. I have a pistol permit for a 9mm pistol and
am quite aware that a full metal jacket bullet in 9mm is not very effective for
home defense.





ifjpm:
Do further research on the .357 bullet and you will find that many State & Local LE are using this round very successfully. It's incapacitation of the criminal is outstanding.
If used for home defense the issues of the .357 sigs noise should be the least of your concerns if it saves your life.
Devastator
 
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Originally posted by devastator:
Do further research on the .357 bullet and you will find that many State & Local LE are using this round very successfully. It's incapacitation of the criminal is outstanding.
If used for home defense the issues of the .357 sigs noise should be the least of your concerns if it saves your life.
Devastator

I will agree that the 357sig is a good choice w/ proper JHP. If all the shooter is alowed is FMJ, it quickly becomes a poor choice.


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I think the hollowpoint ban in NJ is something of an urban legend, or more likely, a tack on they can add if a gun is used in a crime. If you using the gun legally, have the proper paperwork, and use hollowpoints in self defense, you're okay.

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I am not allowed by law to carry hollow point ammunition in NJ. Does anyone have any feeling on the 100gr. Pow'rball for self-defense.
 
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Here is the law- No hollowpoints

On April 8, 1997, Governor Christine Todd Whitman signed into law Assembly Bill 1762 enabling certain eligible retired New Jersey and federal law enforcement officers the right to carry handguns within the State of New Jersey. The Bill was codified in N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6.l.

On January 13, 2008, Governor Jon S. Corzine signed into law Assembly Bill 2158 which eliminated the six month filing requirement from the date of retirement, increased the age restriction from 70 to 75, changed the years of service for a full time law enforcement officer who retired due to a physical disability from five years to four years and now allows those who are a qualified retired law enforcement officer as used in the federal “Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004” and are domiciled in this State, to be eligible for the Retired Law Enforcement Officer Permit to Carry a Handgun. These amendments to N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6.l became effective March 1, 2008.

The Superintendent of the New Jersey State Police has been given statutory responsibility for administering the provisions of N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6.l.

In addition to semiannual qualification with a handgun, the retired officer must be thoroughly familiar with N.J.S.A. 2C:3-1 et. seq. of the New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice which codifies the justified use of deadly force by a civilian.

It should also be noted that, as civilians, retired officers cannot legally carry hollow-point ammunition or utilize high-capacity ammunition magazines (capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition) in the handgun they are carrying.

The retired law enforcement officer permit to carry a handgun law was enacted to help make our streets and communities safer. To this end, it is of critical importance that all retired officers govern their use of deadly force with the same professionalism and good judgment demanded during their law-enforcement careers.


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Might Federal's Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) serve? I don't have a link handy, but google will yield tests and pictures of expanded bullets.

It's not made in .357 SIG, unfortunately, but many 357 pistols can be converted to .40 S&W, and EFMJ for that seems to be readily available at Ammunition To Go at the moment (look near the bottom of the page).

Not entirely responsive to the OP, but perhaps worth considering.

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GR



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If this is the case (and it appears to be so) then i would carry a 45. I say this as someone who normally carries the 357 SIG (Speer gold dots)and feels very comfortable doing so.
 
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