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In reading the above post, I couldn't help but notice the number of responders who have no use for or love of the .40 S&W. Why? Granted, it's not the ideal range load, but it's a great SD round IMHO. Maybe it doesn't have the power of the .45, but it's got a lot of juice and generally comes in fairly high capacity guns. I'm not interested in hearing why the 9mm or .45 ACP or .357 SIG are superior. I just want to know what's wrong with the fo-tay. J "But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5 |
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It's bo-ring.
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When I first got into shooting I did not care for 40S&W but it has grown on me. I used to think it was too snappy but in the right pistol (229 or P2000) it is very accurate and easy to control.
The main reason I am liking 40S&W right now is that it is basically the only handgun caliber available at my local wally world and favorite range. I have been getting the urge to buy another Glock lately and I am considering buying a Glock 20 SF and picking up a Barsto 40S&W conversion barrel for more affordable shooting. ~~~GO COLTS~~~ |
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In my opinion, the .40 is a very reliable round overall. Yes both the 9mm and .45 have benefits, but the .40 is consistent with accuracy and penetration. I did just recently change though to .357 Sig for my carry gun. I still have love for the .40.
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For me, the 40 S&W is a very close second choice as a defensive round right after the 357 SIG.
Back before the 40 was introduced and the 9mm Parabellum and the 45 ACP were the only serious contenders as autoloading pistol cartridges to rely upon for serious purposes, my choice was the 9mm. When the 40 came along with much greater magazine capacity (remember that virtually all 45 magazines were limited to seven rounds in those days) and decent velocity, I took to it instantly. I don't have any hard data myself, but I'd bet a dollar that the 40 S&W is the most common cartridge used by law enforcement agencies. That's hardly "no love." “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy |
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I like the nice holes it leaves in a paper target even with the cheap FMJ stuff because of the blunt nose and my local Walmarts are loaded with .40 Federal at 13.96 a box though I bought a ton at 12.47 a box. In a P229 it all shoots well.
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It is the answer to a question that was never asked. It is the solution to a problem that never existed. It is a compromise between two calibers that already perform well and the downloading of a third caliber to make it controllable for the tender-handed weenies. It is marketing hyperbole at its grandest.
_____________________________  Originally posted by Psychobastard: Well, we "gave them democracy"... not unlike giving a monkey a loaded gun. |
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Agreed. Good round, but what's the point these days with all the great 9mm loadings? My first two pistols were .40s. I don't miss them one bit, because the platforms were better in 9mm. |
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except for a brief foray in 9mm out of a Beretta 9 when I started shooting, I have always been a .45 guy. P 220's and 1911's.
I got into the .40 for a different reason. I always wanted a Browning High Power and to me that pistol just makes more sense in a .40 over a 9mm. didn't hurt I had 2000 rnds of .40 including Ranger that my ole lady made obsolete when selling her HK to fund a 1911. the more I shoot it, the more I like it. .40 short and weak. I don't think so. and the ammunition is a lot easier to find than .357 Sig or 10mm for a " tender handed weinie " like me. ( asshole ) cold on ice it's a Deadman's touch |
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Misanthropic Philanthrope |
The history of your .40 S&W in part stems from shooters unable to handle the recoil of the 10 mm load. (asshole) _____________________________ Originally posted by Psychobastard: Well, we "gave them democracy"... not unlike giving a monkey a loaded gun. |
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So I can easily and safely load my 40s to beat 45s in terms of energy. 45s are by their very design a low pressure proposition. I can carry easily 5 or 6 more rounds of 40s than 45s in a mag and have much better ballistics than a 9mm. No problem to make 40s mushroom the same superior bullet technology that aid the 9 and the 45 are available in the 40. I do wish there were more firearms available in 10mm most notably a Sig. My dies and bullets would work just fine for 10mm, where is that Sig in 10mm?
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MWC:
" The history of your .40 S&W in part stems from shooters unable to handle the recoil of the 10 mm load. (asshole) " no shit, really ? so if someone can't handle it their a weinie...? like I said, don't own one. couldn't find ammo... fun to shoot, but why ? cut the belly bumpin... cold on ice it's a Deadman's touch |
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So what .40 caliber pistol are you carrying that has 5 or 6 more rounds than my HK USPf 45 with 12 in the mag and 1 in the chamber? |
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I officially learned to shoot on .40 and the first two guns I purchased new were .40. I've since figured out there's no need for a caliber that doesn't do anything the 9mm or .45 can't.
No thanks. Now 10mm... |
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No need to get your panties in a bunch, Deadman. Shit, you'd think I insulted your mother.  _____________________________ Originally posted by Psychobastard: Well, we "gave them democracy"... not unlike giving a monkey a loaded gun. |
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Whatta putz. I was obviously speaking of single stack 1911 types that are out there in much greater number than your H and K But OK, you win my 14 rounds +1 in my 229 is only 2 more. Oh and I forgot the Paras too. Mundus Vult Decipi |
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In other words, you didn't know what you were talking about. I understand. |
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Yup!! |
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I've never owned a .40 or a 9mm. Damn, I must be old and set in my ways.
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