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Does such ammunition exist? My wife is becoming less able to work a 12 gauge defensive shotgun. I'm thinking a 20 gauge autoloader may be the ticket. Input is welcome.
 
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I use #3 buckshot in my Remington 870. I’m sure any high brass buck load would function in a semi.
 
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I think Federal has a #4 buckshot load in 20 gauge marketed as Personal Defense, but I would not want to stand in front of any of the Vital
Shok buck shot loads marketed for hunters.




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My wife is becoming less able to work a 12 gauge defensive shotgun. I'm thinking a 20 gauge autoloader may be the ticket.

The least energetic 12 gauge loads generally produce 16-18 foot pounds of recoil energy in an average weight gun. Low-ish recoil 20 gauge factory loads are a challenge to find, but they will generally produce 14-16 foot pound of recoil energy in an average weight gun. Understand that a 20 gauge gun is generally 8 to 16 ounces lighter than a comparable 12 gauge shotgun, therefore the 20 produces a little more felt recoil for loads with the exact same energy.

Cutting to the chase, she may still have issues with a 20 gauge.

Consider an AR-type platform, maybe 223 or 300blk chambering. Even the most energetic ammo with the lightest rifle will produce felt recoil in the 5-6 foot pounds ballpark.
 
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Plenty of good ammo choices for the 20. I'd be picking the platform, ensuring familiarity then load most anything.

As a bird hunter, I wouldn't even want to end up on the wrong side of 'high-brass' #6 at 15'.
 
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What aspect of "working" a 12 gauge is the issue? Is it the weight of the shotgun, or the recoil? As others have suggested, the recoil issue may be a wash, considering the greater weight of a typical 12 gauge. It seems to me that there are a lot more options for light load 12 ammo than there are for the 20.




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Perhaps switching to a semi auto would help. Lower recoil, and auto loading would both help. Benelli M4 would be ideal.


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Box O' Truth says Winchester #3 buckshot is sufficient for defense.
 
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Perhaps switching to a semi auto would help.


"20 gauge autoloader" was mentioned the first post. (I initially missed that too.) I don't know of a reliable 20 gauge semi-automatic shot gun, but surely they exist.

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Lower recoil, and auto loading would both help. Benelli M4 would be ideal.


That's my favorite shotgun, but it's expensive and heavy. It's so heavy that it mostly lives in the safe. I replaced it as bedside weapon with a DDM4ISR, which is much more expensive, but not heavy.

Back to 20 gauge shotguns, I use a 20 gauge Mossberg pump with pistol grip as my office long gun because it is lightweight and maneuverable.

And answering Fredward's question, yes, HD 20 gauge shotgun ammunition exists, but can sometimes be hard to find. MidWayUSA has some good choices in stock now: https://www.midwayusa.com/20-gauge-2-3-4/br?cid=23040
 
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Lower recoil long gun for home defense? 9MM carbine. I'm partial to the Beretta Storm carbine, loaded with 30 round 92FS mags, but the Scorpion and perhaps others would be a good home defense gun for the wife. My storm has a flashlight and red dot on it. Great gun that will get the job done.

This is a great review that shows how handy and accurate it is, especially the shooting demo at 4:21 which shows why its a good choice for home defense...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO-JNwKCMI


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Reminding that this is the ammunition section, effective 20 gauge ammunition does exist and is for sale.

Thread shifting, my RRA LAR-9 9mm AR pistol with stabilizing brace, tactical rail with vertical angled fore grip is handy and convenient.

(The strike through edit is important since attaching a vertical foregrip will make it an AOW subject to NFA laws, but attaching angled fore grip does not.)

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