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The DW and I were at our favorite candy store this weekend and we saw a Bersa 380 auto in .380 ACP. The Bersa fit her hand real well and we considered picking it up, but I don't know anything about the .380ACP cartridge. How does it compare to the 9mm? Is the recoil more or less? Looking at teh Winchester web page, the 380 appears to have less muzzle energy.
Thanks for your input. Forget San Francisco. I Left My Heart In Colorado |
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The .380 round usually has less power than the 9mm.
.380 in a typical blow back pistol, such as the Bersa, can provide a little more recoil than you would expect. |
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Yep got a little muzzle flip,lots lighter and more care in hitting your target.The one I shot a few minutes ago jammed on the last round,therent mine,a neighbor brought it by to plink a few rounds with.
I would not buy one,but its modest priced and if you are careful it will do a decent job on a target at seven yards. For me it not enough,I an 45X/D guy. |
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I have owned a Bursa .380 for many years, and could not be happier for the price. There are a lot of them out there, and most folks are pleased with them. The .380 round is called the 9mm Kurtz(short). There are now some very effective .380 SD rounds for sale. The Bursa is snappy, as it is a blow-back action, not a locked breech. Some folks prefer a larger caliber for SD, that is a personal decision. There are also some nice small, light-weight 9mm pistols available for sale also. They are also snappy due the light weight.
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That is my issue w/ most 380s, marginal power & snappy recoil. Really, w/ the curren crop of small 9mm, she would be better off w/ one of them. The P239 is one though, especially if she has small hands. The Kahr, but crappy triggers, the G26, very easy to shoot well for small hands w/ mild recoil & a round that is just that much better than a 380. The XD subcomp is another choice. IF YOU AREN'T HANDLOADING, YOU AREN'T SHOOTING ENOUGH! |
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For a pistol that size, I would definitely move towards 9MM. However, I use my LCP for pocket carry and am happy with it.
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I had a Mauser Hsc 380 (jam-o-matic) and now a Kahr CW40. The Kahr shoots like a dream, I would assume the Kahr in 9mm would even be better. I just got a P239/40, but have not fired it yet, so can't comment.,
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I have a CZ83 in .380, and there is no excessive recoil with standard rounds. Now the Buffalo Bore high pressure stuff has a real kick to go along with its very nasty bite.
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9mm for carry and 380 for backup.
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There are also some nice small, light-weight 9mm pistols available for sale also. They are also snappy due the light weight.
You got that right, GT. My summer CC is a Kel-Tec P-11 and snappy is the right word. However, 11 rounds of 9mm HP in a 14 oz package smaller than a lot of 380's is not bad. |
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If you think the KelTec P-11 is snappy, you should try their new(relatively) Pf-9!!! I have one and it is great to carry, but very snappy with SD loads....as you would expect, since it is lighter weight(single stack mag)than the P-11. I imagine though, if I need to use a weapon for self defence, I probably won't even feel the recoil. I hope that I never have to find out.. |
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The Bersas are generally considered great guns, especially for the price point... but the above posts are correct. They generally have a snappy recoil due to their design. My wife did NOT like the one we bought for her in .380. I do like it but with SD-power loads it probably has the perceived recoil of mid-range 9mm.
If the recoil isn't an issue and 380 is acceptable to you for SD then it's hard to beat the reliability for the price. "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr. |
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This has turned into a firearm thread, but the question was answered. The .380 is similar to teh 9, but less powerful. That said, we have a Firestar M-43 in 9. It's a nice, compact stainless model and she shoots it well. She liked the Bersa because of the lighter weight. Whenever we can find .380's, we'll give the rental a try. Forget San Francisco. I Left My Heart In Colorado |
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With the availability of ammo the way it is. I'd go for whichever has easier ammo to obtain.
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Is the .380 cartride AKA the Dodo cartridsge?
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I see Remington UMC .380 a couple boxes at a time on occassions at my local WMs. I have yet to see .45 acp in any brand/config in the last 3 months, so in my neck of the woods, the .45 is the extinct caliber . . .
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The .380 has less power than the 9 but usually can be had in a more compact gun. There are a lot of small 9's today so I would go with that unless you get something really small like an LCP or Keltec. .380 ammo is very hard to come by these days as well.
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Get yourself a Seecamp .380 and call it good. Yes, it's expensive, and yes, it's snappy, but it's a shoot a little/carry a lot type gun, and there's no better made or smaller .380 on the planet.
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My wife loves hers. It has never missed a beat in 10 years of ownership. I say go for it.
Scotch scotch scotch, I love scotch!-- Ron Burgundy |
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Because of the usual design of .380 pistols (blow back) they recoil more than you would expect. I wouldn't really recommend them for the recoil shy who are looking for something less than 9mm.
That said Bersas are excellent pistols for the money, MUCH better than anything else in the price range (better even than some more expensive stuff) and adequate for a primary defensive firearm with the right ammo. "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr. |
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