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I'm currently carrying Federal 124 grain plus P in my defensive carry - Glock 19 with OEM threaded barrel. They advertise 396 ft.lbs. of energy. I get a box of 50 for about $25.00 from an ammo store here in town - Ventura Munitions. The box says law enforcement on it, but it is not bonded ammo as I originally thought. I'm having trouble finding Speer Gold Dot 124 grain in the Plus P variety. I may just have to order online for them. I've done the usual research and find myself wondering if the Gold Dots are actually better. It seems to be a law enforcement favorite - and I do prefer a bonded bullet - and it is a slightly hotter round - which I think every little bit helps. But from my perspective, it seems the HST's expand a little better, and I haven't heard of any problems with jacket separation from them. Has HST done something I don't know about to prevent jacket separation - kind of like Hornady did with the band around their critical duty line of ammunition ? Barrier penetration matters to me because of an incident about 5 years ago - another topic, another thread, another time... There are other brands out there I know, but I'm going with one of these two brands, and switching carry loads is a big deal to me. All things considered, with ability to defeat barriers, am I making a sound decision to choose the Gold Dots over the HST's ? Ask before I buy type thing ya know...
 
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HST's jacket is not electrochemically bonded to the core like on Gold Dots, but they are mechanically bonded. Different method of ensuring weight retention and preventing jacket separation, but no less effective in testing.

Both Gold Dots and HST consistently performs extremely well in testing. In some tests, HST marginally outperforms Gold Dots. In other tests, Gold Dots come out on top.

So with their performance being so close, it wouldn't be worthwhile to ditch your HSTs and replace them all with Gold Dots.

I wouldn't hesitate to carry either one (and have carried both).
 
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It's my preference that my pistol is always loaded with standard pressure HST, but I carry a second magazine with standard pressure Gold Dot. Both are proven to perform well and function reliably.

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To expand on my earlier post, here are some photos.

HST bullets have a deep cannelure crimped into the bullet, which combined with the skiving at the nose to guide expansion and prevent the jacket from fully peeling away, serves to physically lock the jacket onto the core, even when travelling through intermediate barriers.



Newer HST has even added a secondary backup cannelure below the first one, to further ensure performance through tougher intermediate barriers like auto glass.

 
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