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Don't want to use too much 158gr. 357 Magnum ammo to keep my beauty in perfect condition.

What is potent self defense 38 Special ammo that is a step down from the 357 Magnum? Brand and bullet weight would be appreciated.


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These days some so-called 357 Magnum ammunition is downloaded due to the proliferation of tiny, lightweight revolvers like the S&W J-frames. You could use that sort of load or any 38 Special +P.

For anything you’re considering, go to the manufacturers’ web sites and see what they claim for muzzle velocity and bullet weight. It used to be that 38 +P was a real step down in power from anything labeled 357, but although there are still full power 357 loads available, the way to tell is to look at the factory ballistics. (If you have any question that the factory data is correct, which is often inflated, check the YouTube videos that will usually show what actual chronograph data people get.)




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Our department used to issue the 125gr +P JHP .38SPL for our K-frames magnums...they are not as hard on the forcing cone as the same bullet loaded to .357Mag pressures. The stuff we were issued was from Winchester as part of the State purchase....CHP used the same ammo.

At the time, I preferred Federal Hydra-shok...which I guess has now evolved into HST.

If I was looking for a current .38SPL round that was kind to my gun, accurate, and offered decent street performance, I'd look at the Speer 135gr +P Gold Dot




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some recent gel testing from an on-line ammo vendor (I am not affiliated with them in any way)

may be of interest to you -- take the info any way you like Smile

(scroll down for the gel performance)

https://www.ammunitiontogo.com...mmoToGo.com#gel-test

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Take a look at Buffalo Bore's +P rated 158GR LSWC, aka "FBI Load."
 
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Originally posted by bigwagon:
Take a look at Buffalo Bore's +P rated 158GR LSWC, aka "FBI Load."

That load won't really address the OP's desire to keep his M19 in "perfect condition"...it is almost as tough on a gun as the "Treasury Load"

If you're considering going that route, you'd be better off with a light .357Mag loading




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Another source of data is the testing of 38 / 357 done by Lucky Gunner. Lots of data presented in an easy to compare format.

https://www.luckygunner.com/la...ver-ballistics-test/


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I've shot a lot of 158 grain .357 in my 6" k frame and it's still tight and no issues.

A step down would be 158 grain +P .38 special. I wouldn't trust non +p .38 special for self defense. The +p is pretty anemic in my k frame compared to .357 158 grain.
 
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Thanks to all who contributed. The Sig Forum is a great place to gain info.


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Golden Sabre in .357 Mag and .38 special are both good loads. The .357 Mag is a lite load, so not too bad.


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