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PISTOLENPATRONE 41 9mm ammo

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July 19, 2020, 11:35 PM
atxo4
PISTOLENPATRONE 41 9mm ammo
I need some information about a box of 120rds sealed in foil Pistolenpatrone 41 9mm...Should I collect or shoot? What is the value?Thanks all.
July 20, 2020, 12:13 AM
parabellum
You've been searching for an answer to this question for a long time.

https://forums.gunboards.com/s...patronen-41-9mm-ammo
July 20, 2020, 12:17 AM
atxo4
quote:
YES I HAVE..YOU WOULD THINK WITH THE INTERNET AND ALL THE FORUMS SOMEBODY WOULD KNOW SOMETHING...I SHALL NOT GIVE UP...MY 4 YEAR SEARCH CONTINUES.
July 20, 2020, 12:18 AM
parabellum
Well, happy anniversary, man.

Contact forum member OTD:

ottd {at] gmx.ch

He's in Switzerland and he's quite knowledgeable.
July 20, 2020, 12:48 AM
atxo4
Thank you very much.email sent.will post results
September 12, 2020, 01:14 PM
L90814
The cartridge can be used in any 9mm Para.

Ammunition details ( top ) :
Ammunition: Pistol cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41)
Caliber: 9mm Para
First Issued: 1941
Permission required :
Pistol cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41) Pistol cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41)

Description:
Text only available in German :
ALN (Armeelager number): 591-1240

short compared pistol cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41) and gun cartridge 14 (9mm Pist Pat 14) :

pistol cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41)
- bullet weight 8.0 grams
- projectile with copper Nickel (CuNi) plated steel jacket
- "Swiss" shape (Ogive)
- bottom closed
- case made in Switzerland
- no crimp groove on the projectile
- the bullet is less stuck than with pistol cartridge 14 (9mm Pist Pat 14)
- precision (theoretical): 54mm 50m
- Relatively expensive manufacturing costs
- Coarse-grained powder

Pistol cartridge 14 (9mm Pist Pat 14)
- bullet weight 8.0 grams
- bullet with brass jacket (CuZn) = less wear in the barrel than pistol cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41)
- bullet shape of the CIP standard (Commission International Permanente)
- bullet bottom closed
- case off foreign production
- Crimprille on the projectile
- The projectile sits more firmly than with Pistol Cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41) (more robust against external influences, better for serial firearms)
- Precision (theoretical): 64mm at 50m
- Cheaper manufacturing costs than Pistol Cartridge 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41 )
- Fine-grained powder (can be dosed more precisely and better)

Markings on the
bottom of the cartridge The manufacturing data are noted on the bottom of the cartridge. The corresponding positions are as follows:

Number above (12 o'clock): Month of production

Number below (6 o'clock): Year of production

Letter on the left (9 o'clock): Origin of the sleeve material
Brass sleeves:
T: Selve & Co, Thun
D: Dornach
B: unknown ( picture )
L: unknown ( Picture , Picture )
Aluminum sleeves:
M: Menzikon
Steel sleeves:
A: A: Altena (Germany) ( Picture )
BD: B: Borsig (Germany)
D: Dornach, delivery of the pans
BT: B: Borsig (Germany)
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans ( picture )
FD: F: Fagersta (Sweden)
D: Dornach, delivery of the pans ( picture )
FT: Q: Fagersta (Sweden)
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans
FTN: F: Fagersta (Sweden)
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the cells
N: normalized
GD: G: Gerlafingen (Switzerland)
D: Dornach, delivery of the pans
HT: H: Hellefors (Sweden)
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans ( picture )
KT: K: Klöcknerstahl (Germany)
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans ( picture )
OD: O: SRO Stahl
D: Dornach, delivery of the pans ( picture )
OT: O: SRO Stahl
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans ( picture )
SD: S: Schwedenstahl
D: Dornach, delivery of the pans ( picture )
SDA: S: Schwedenstahl
D: Dornach, delivery of the cups
A: aluminum additive ( picture )
ST: S: Schwedenstahl
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans ( picture )
UD: U: Uddeholm (Sweden)
D: Dornach, delivery of the pans ( picture )
UT: U: Uddeholm (Sweden)
T: Selve & Co, Thun, delivery of the pans
Letter right (3 o'clock): Sign of the ammunition factory
- A: Altdorf
- T: Thun
- S: Solothurn (rare) ( Picture )
- R: Rothenburg (rare)

Number "3" top left (10 o'clock): unknown ( Picture )
Number "4" at the top left (10 o'clock): unknown ( picture ) The

letter "B" at the top left (10 o'clock) means that the casings were made from shelled casings ( picture ).

The letter "V" in the upper left corner (10 o'clock) could mean "try" ( Picture ).

Letter "A" at the bottom left (8 o'clock) means

Number "2" at the bottom right (4 o'clock) means that the piston (primer) has been changed ( Picture , Picture ).