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Something better than SA mil surp but cheaper than match.

I've got a scoped Savage 11FXP3 w/22" barrel that works for me, it hits the paper at 200 yards. It's very accurate with Core Lokt, less so with the South African. I am NOT a precision shooter, no plans to enter competition.

Is there an American Eagle 308 (or other mil surp) that will give me better accuracy than the SA but not break the bank? I've already used the AE and Core Lokt rebates.

I found a good deal on AE:

https://www.targetsportsusa.co...fmj-308d-p-1205.aspx
 
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I haven’t found that AE load to be particularly accurate; I use it for foulers, getting on paper at close distances, and plinking. As I recall Lapua makes a full metal jacket bullet load that’s supposed to be match quality, but otherwise, FMJ is to satisfy military ideas about what’s acceptable in warfare, not to produce accurate results. Most FMJ bullets are inherently less accurate than other styles.

I don’t know how tight your budget is, but if you can’t go another $5 per box to get match grade ammunition, then I’d look at the so-called match ammo loaded by foreign companies such as Prvi Partizan. They use open tip match-type bullets that may not be as high quality as Sierra MatchKing bullets, but are probably better than most FMJ designs. Buy a box or two and see how it does for you.

SGAmmo is a good place to start looking. Their prices are not always the lowest, but they’re usually very competitive, and they don’t rape on shipping charges (something to always check before placing an order with an online company).




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Thanks for the speedy reply.. I found this and the price is right:

http://www.sgammo.com/product/...-partizan-ammo-pp321

The Core Lokt is 150 gr, will the POI for 168gr Privi match be significantly different at 200 yds? I am not a precision shooter.
 
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I've found it hard to beat the combination of quality and affordability of PMC ammunition.

I've got several cases stashed away of their X-Tac line in 556.

They make 147grain FMJ in 7.62 as well as some 168 grain SMK loads for about $1 round.


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If we’re going to spend $1 per round, the number of excellent options in factory ammunition increases significantly.

SGAmmo has Federal 175 grain Gold Medal Match for ~$0.95 a round, and although it’s out of stock at the moment, they often sell 168 grain GMM for about the same price. GMM is the defacto standard for many military and law enforcement snipers so it has a solid accuracy reputation.
In addition, I have found Hornady match and TAP loads to be very accurate and some of them sell for not much more than $1 per round.

There’s nothing wrong with choosing a lesser-known brand if it performs well, but we shouldn’t assume that it will be the least expensive.




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Lower priced FMJ ammo won't be consistently accurate. I've shot a few 5-round groups under 1" at 100 yards with American Eagle, PMC, and XM, but the most part figure that they are 1.5" to 2" capable in a precision rifle at 100 yards. FMJ will almost certainly perform worse in a lesser rifle.

Factory ammo using 168/175 grain SMK or similar HPBT bullets will provide your best performance for a reasonable price. I haven't shot Prvi ammo -- I'm pretty certain it will shoot more accurately than FMJ ammo, however I suspect it's not up to the accuracy of the versions from Federal, Fiocchi, Black Hills, Hornady, Remington, HSM, and Winchester.

As noted above, plan for about $1 per round for Federal GMM. Ammoseek.com is a good search engine for web pricing. Both SGammo.com and Palmettostatearmory.com tend to have good prices. Earlier in the summer, Palmetto sometimes sold FGMM for $.80 delivered.
 
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https://www.freedommunitions.c...rangetime-reman.html

Freedom Munitions has this 150g SPBT on sale for $0.57


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My Ruger M77 MKII Target like these and free shipping if you buy it by the case.
https://www.targetsportsusa.co...p-gm308m-p-1163.aspx
 
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https://www.freedommunitions.c...rangetime-reman.html

Freedom Munitions has this 150g SPBT on sale for $0.57


Thanks but no thanks, they're reloads.

I shoot the 308 maybe 3x/year, tops 20 rds each time. I might as well fire my old Core Lokt and buy new at $.80/rd:

https://www.natchezss.com/remi...2820-fps-20-box.html
 
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https://www.freedommunitions.c...rangetime-reman.html

Freedom Munitions has this 150g SPBT on sale for $0.57


Thanks but no thanks, they're reloads.

I shoot the 308 maybe 3x/year, tops 20 rds each time. I might as well fire my old Core Lokt and buy new at $.80/rd:

https://www.natchezss.com/remi...2820-fps-20-box.html


Oh, well looks who's too good for reloads... Mr. I'll just burn up Core Lokts like they grow on trees...

(just kidding)


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I shoot the 308 maybe 3x/year, tops 20 rds each time. I might as well fire my old Core Lokt and buy new at $.80/rd:

Just to confirm, you're shooting a maximum of 60 rounds per year. Ignoring tax and shipping (if any), the Remy Core Lokts will cost a maximum of $48 per year. Decent match grade ammo will cost no more than $54 to $60 per year. My math skilz sez that ain't too many Happy Meals or cups of coffee.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. Core Lokt is my SHTF ammo, that's what the rifle is zeroed for. I thought - foolishly - I could get good ammo for cheap, and SF members reminded me it doesn't work that way.

Rather than use other ammo that might save a few $$, I'm going to stick with Core Lokt and use up some of my older ammo on the range.
 
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I've had great luck with blackwaterprecision.com - 50 round box, Sierra MatchKing for under $50.00.
 
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I've had great luck with blackwaterprecision.com - 50 round box, Sierra MatchKing for under $50.00.


So, not only are you also advising the topic starter to spend ~$1 per round, but now it’s to buy 50 at one time rather than just 20—? Wink




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can anyone else attest to the blackwater precision? that 50 box for 50 isnt a bad price


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