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"Can I lawfully make a pistol into a rifle without registering that firearm?

Assuming that the firearm was originally a pistol, the resulting firearm, with an attached shoulder stock, is not an NFA firearm if it has a barrel of 16 inches or more in length. Pursuant to ATF Ruling 2011-4, such rifle may later be unassembled and again configured as a pistol. Such configuration would not be considered a “weapon made from a rifle” as defined by 26 U.S.C. § 5845(a)(4).

[26 U.S.C. § 5845, 27 C.F.R. § 479.11; ATF Ruling 2011-4]

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So, within the law, I could buy an AR pistol with a brace, AND a 16" upper & rifle buttstock?

Use it in pistol form for a "truck gun" and swap out the brace & pistol upper for rifle buttstock & 16" rifle upper to shoot competitions?
And just be VERY careful to never assemble the pistol upper with a rifle buttstock on the lower??


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Yes... for a lot of work and hassle.
 
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Originally posted by CandyMan.45:
Yes... for a lot of work and hassle.


Actually, I'm not sure it's that simple... My understanding is that the pistol buffer tubes are usually enough different that you can't really put a normal stock on one.

Having to swap the buffer tube every time would take it beyond "a lot of work and hassle" into "monumental pain in the ass."

Even if you could switch the stocks back and forth, you'd only be saving maybe $150 or so.
 
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think SBA brace... rides on a standard mil-spec tube
 
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I think it's easier on weapons that don't have a buffer tube setup, but an easy way to swap out stocks / braces / etc.

Like the Scorpion, MCX, etc.

I have a Scorpion that was bought as a pistol (and still is). I have SBR paperwork on it and could convert it if / when I chose to do so by attaching a stock and complying with all the other NFA requirements. And if I needed to, I could always convert it back to a pistol, since it started life as a pistol.
 
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Thanks for the advice, guys; I didn't mean to get bogged down in the technical ease/difficulty of converting, just the ATF legal requirement.

AR was a bad example.


If I have a weapon manufactured as a 'pistol', and can easily swap out for a rifle length barrel and forearm, leaving the "brace' in place …

that would be within the law and ATF regulation? No stamp required?


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^ In that example, would it still be a pistol? Is barrel length the determining factor in pistol/rifle?

If it doesn't have a stock, and you put a 16" barrel on it, isn't it still a pistol?




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Originally posted by P250UA5:
^ In that example, would it still be a pistol? Is barrel length the determining factor in pistol/rifle?

If it doesn't have a stock, and you put a 16" barrel on it, isn't it still a pistol?


From 27 CFR 479.11:

quote:

Pistol. A weapon originally designed,
made, and intended to fire a projectile
(bullet) from one or more barrels when
held in one hand, and having (a) a
chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or
permanently aligned with, the bore(s);
and (b) a short stock designed to be
gripped by one hand and at an angle to
and extending below the line of the
bore(s).


Colloquially: it's designed to be fired held by a pistol grip with one hand.

quote:

Rifle. A weapon designed or redesigned,
made or remade, and intended
to be fired from the shoulder and designed
or redesigned and made or remade
to use the energy of the explosive
in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single
projectile through a rifled bore for
each single pull of the trigger, and
shall include any such weapon which
may be readily restored to fire a fixed
cartridge.


Colloquially: it has a rifled barrel and is designed to be shouldered.
 
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