Along with turning in the damaged 22lr aac pilot. I plan on ordering a replacement and a few others. The last time i bought a suppressor was 2008. Other than that one i have 0 exp with the process. I would like to buy one suppressor for each of my pistol calibers that can be used on carbines and pistols. One suppressor for each of my rifle calibers.
Here are the guns I have a wish to put a suppressor on.
Clearly, I want a disassemblable 22lr can. I have a friend with a "q" can. I am not set on that yet though. Just want a solid easy to clean 22lr can.
Next, I have a POF ar15. It currently has a birdcage on it. Would you do a direct thread mount providing barrel length is feasible or, would you go to a QD mount? What QD mount would you choose? What 223/556 can would you recommend for the POF AR15?
Third, I have a sig 556R. It also has a birdcage flash hider. What is involved in removing that from the rifle? What mount if any would you put on it. What 30 cal can would you put on it?
Fourth, I have a POF p308. It currently has a muzzle break on it, but not a QD mount one. What mount would you use? could it be the same kind as the 556R? Would you use the same 30cal can for the P308 and the 556r? Crap I forgot I have a Ruger American in 308 also.
5th I have a Kriss vector CRB carbine in 40 sw. Would you do a direct thread mount or qd? I don't want to sbr the carbine. I also would like to use the can for some of my 40 cal pistols. What can do you recommend for 40 cal. 40 cal Pistols HKUSP in 40,BHP in 40.
6th I have a sig mpx carbine with the tuning fork flash hider. What is necessary to put a can on this one? Again, would you do a QD or a direct thread? I have a few 9mm pistols, so i would like to use the cans on those also. What 9mm can would you use? HK USP tac 9mm. IWI Jericho 9mm, Sig 226 SAO elite. Sig p225 etc.
7th I have a HK usp mk 23 in 45 acp. I also have a desire to buy a 45 lc lever gun and have the end threaded. What can would you recomend for the pair of these guns. I would like it to function well with both.This message has been edited. Last edited by: DSgrouse,
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1.Dead Air Mask
2.Dead Air Sandman S, flash hider or muzzle brake you pick
3.Dead Air Sandman L or another S, same
4.Dead Air Sandman L or another S, same
5.SilencerCo Omega 45K, three lug adapter for Vector, direct thread for pistols
6.SilencerCo Omega 9K, 3 lug adapter for MPX, direct thread for pistols
Instead of of one of the Sandman S or L I would get a K for when you want something shorter.
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Sounds like you need at the minimum:
1) dedicated 22 can
2) 45 caliber can
3) dedicated 30 caliber rifle
The 22 can is 1/2 x 28 direct thread.
The 30 caliber can be QD or direct thread your choice, 308 will also suppress 556.
Right now Silencer Shop is running a Dead Air special--Buy 1 @ x dollars--get a Ghost for $399.
You have on decide on mounts, pistons, etc
E mail me for further details.
Griffin Paladin w/ taper mounts for the centerfire rifles.
Rugged Obsidian 45 for the pistol calibers w/ 3 lug for fixed barrels and pistons for tilt barrel pistols
Rugged Oculus for the .22
Thank you all. I have a cal into the atf about the old aac pilot, and how to dispose of it. I am looking at ta suite of daid air suppresosrs. the sand man L for the 5.56/7.62 rifles. The Ghost M for the Pistol calibers, and mask 22 for the 22lr guns.
Now i just need to figure out what thread pitch all the rifles ar, if I can put a suppressor on it using the sandman muzzle break and stil be legal length.
I do have a question on the dead air ghost m. what would be the most convienent way to mount it on the PCC and Pistols?
1) you have to decide QD vs direct thread for 556/30 caliber rifles. You can get QD in 1/2 x 28 for 556, then 5/8x24 for 308.
2) pistols require pistons to cycle correctly—13.5 is 9 mm. Rifles need a fixed barrel spacer to prevent a baffle strike- this is your Kriss vector. This applies to Ghost M. 14.5 is 40 caliber for HK, 9/16 is more common for 40. 16 left hand is 45 caliber exceptMark 23 which is 16 right.
3) rifle legal length should not be effected by QD attach.
Confused- it’s complicated.
For the Sandman - you could go direct thread for 30 calibers— POF, Predator. Need convert 1/2 x28 to 5/8 x24 for 556. Or you have to buy a QD devic3 for each rifle.
Ballpark $949for Sandman L
$399 for Ghost if bought thru Silencer Shop
$399 for Mask
Since your in Virginia-call hansohn Brothers in Culpeper. They are very competitive in pricing- see what they can do for 3. And see if they can fix your old Pilot. I bet they would recommend Energetic nyx for 22 caliber and Vox for 308. Better materials and price.
Plug for our own Dry Fly- he’s selling a Ghost for $499 shipped. Grab Sandman and Mask from Hanohn Brothers. Get Ghost from Dry Fly and see what he can do on the price of pistons.
Giving them a look now. It looks like i may need to sbr the kriss and MPX. There does not look like there is another 5 inch muzzle device like my mpx tuning fork. Also if i have to be rid of the kriss faux suppressor, i might as well cut the damn barrel off and be legal.
Exactly how do suppressor pistons work with pistol. All i remember seeing is direct thread.
Your Sig MPX flash hider is pinned and welded--that will be a PIA to remove.
Kriss Vector has a 2 mm screw holding the fake suppressor in place. you are talking $200 per can and $200 per SBR.
Walk---don't run into this.
Do you buy these as an Individual or go the Trust route?
You missed the Silencerco deal in July--buy one , get one free. Dead Air deal was in Aug with Capital Armory buy one-get $300 off a Ghost AND Ghost piston package free.
Black Friday is coming up--inventory is high-more deals are on the way.
I will say I'm a big fan of Griffin's taper mount for using a can on multiple rifles.
Solid lock up with only a light hand tighten. Never moves on the gun.
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Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat.
Just wild ass spitballing here.
These are the preliminary cans I am looking at.
Dead Air Mask
Dead Air Odessa (i really like the factory sights usage and versatility of this one.)
Dead Air Ghost M
Dead air sandman l
Vox center fire
Look at this one too.
I've got a Mask and like it, great can, but the monocore Liberty Regulator is easier to clean, take apart, put back together. Both are super quiet.
The other .22 can you linked looks cool, but .22 cans are so small anyway I don't see the advantage of it. More parts is more crap to clean on a .22 can which is going to get nasty no matter what.
more wild ass spit balling
Thinking of the dead air mask,
Rugged obsidian 9
rugged obsidian 45
possibly an all round dead air ghost m
Dead air sandman L for 223
dead air sand mand ti for 7.62
Just throwing my 2 cents in to muddy the waters. Rugged Obsidians are really nice, I’ve had one in .45 since they came out. The Dead Air Ghost M’s that I have look every bit as well made. I like Silencerco a lot, but their lineup is getting a little dated. Omega’s are good rifle cans though. Rugged and Dead Air’s rifle cans are excellent as well. The Sandman S and Rugged Micro are very nice suppresors. I’ve always been a bit intrigued by OSS and their rifle cans, but I have no experience with them. To answer your question about Pistons.... they come in different thread pitches which are fairly standard and vary by caliber. Threaded .45 barrels have a different thread pitch than 9mm’s. The piston is a cheap ($60) way to make your pistol can fit different calibers. I’m using an iPhone to type all this, hope it made sense. Feel free to PM if you like
"Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway." Steve McQueen...
Still looking at the deadair line up. Trying to decide what to get.
So looking at DEAD-AIR Mask to go with the following:
p226 22lr tb
Going Form 1 for use with Dead-Air Ghost-M
Kriss Vector 40
Sig Mpx 9mm
Pistols 9mm for use with DEAD-Air Odessa
hk usp tac
Pistols 40/357 sig For use with Dead-air Ghost-M
Sig P226 40
Sig P226 357 sig
Pistols 45 acp For us with DEAD-AIR Ghost-M
HK USP 45
Rifles For use with DEAD-AIR SANDMAN TI
Ruger American 308
Anyone see any issue with this lay out? I guess my biggest concern is that the sandman Ti can direct thread to all those rifles.
Mask and Ghost are excellent choices, as well as the Sandman Ti. The Ghost will also work for all pistol calibers from 45 to 9 mm. Not drinking the cool aid on the Odessa. Almost the same length as Ghost at 8”, width is 1” vs Ghost at 1.3”. Price tag on the Odessa is $800 range. Consider AAC Illusion 1) lower price $450 2) uses regular sights like Odessa 3) shorter length. Someone suggested Liberty Mystic - 9 mm and 556 . Can be used on 9 mm pistols and 556 rifles.
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