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22lr can question/ suppressor question. Updated

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September 14, 2018, 12:04 PM
DSgrouse
22lr can question/ suppressor question. Updated
My 22lr can is not able to be cleaned. It does not reqlly suppress squat anymore. It is an old aac pilot. Years aho i remember reading of a required steps to dispose of it. Does anyone here know the process and the paperwork required to file with the atf?

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September 14, 2018, 04:45 PM
David W
I have heard of folks jailbreaking cans to be able to clean them, contact AAC and see what they say. Some other can companies do custom work if you wanted to clean it.

I have no idea about how to destroy one, just thought I would add restoration to your listWink


David W.

Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud. -Sophocles
September 14, 2018, 05:02 PM
DSgrouse
I contacted aac and yhm. They had 0 interest to do it.
September 14, 2018, 06:19 PM
Mike748
Industrial size ultrasonic might clean it out...
September 14, 2018, 06:33 PM
DSgrouse
quote:
Originally posted by Mike748:
Industrial size ultrasonic might clean it out...



I thought of that, hqve tried regular ultrasonic cleaners, heated ones at that. I have tried chipping it out. Solvents, break free agents, nothing hqs made a dent. The thing is dead.
September 14, 2018, 06:44 PM
SIGfourme
Liberty Suppressor will open and replace with a monocore.
May be a wait list...
They do good work.
September 14, 2018, 06:52 PM
Rustpot
A little poking around on the Google and it looks like Gemtech will (or at least has at some point) disassemble it and put in removable baffles for $250.

Also saw a reference to Liberty in another forum.

I'd contact a few other companies and see if you can get the can serviced before you junk it.

Edit:
Here's a thread with photos and explanations to DIY jailbreak the AAC Pilot
http://www.silencertalk.com/fo...933478835b826a8a77c8
September 14, 2018, 07:04 PM
David W
Have you tried "the dip" method?


David W.

Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud. -Sophocles
September 14, 2018, 07:10 PM
Rustpot
quote:
Originally posted by David W:
Have you tried "the dip" method?


"The Dip" eats aluminum. And the chemical reaction with lead is real bad for you.
September 14, 2018, 09:58 PM
CandyMan.45
Can forget gemtech... they're a debunked company now !

These guys were jail breaking a lot of stuff before... http://www.stalkingrhino.com
September 14, 2018, 10:08 PM
DSgrouse
I appriciate the efforts guys. However, the can is toast. As in not feesible for any refurb, a few bad baffle strikes and a keyhole or 10. I am simply looking for the way to classify it destroyed for the atf. I plan on replqcing it soon.
September 15, 2018, 01:47 AM
CandyMan.45
Easy way is to cut it up into 3 pieces and ask ATF to remove from the registry...
September 17, 2018, 09:22 PM
DSgrouse
quote:
Originally posted by CandyMan.45:
Easy way is to cut it up into 3 pieces and ask ATF to remove from the registry...


This is what i was getting at. I read a step by step process of it once, but for the life of me could not find it on the atf web sight. AAC wants nothing to do with the can. There is a visible crack in the sleeve. So, it's toast as they say. It has many thousands of rounds through it. I just want to get it properly done, and move on to a new can.

Do you happen to know where to find the process on the atf website, I have a call in, but have not recieved a phone call back as of yet.
September 19, 2018, 12:38 PM
DSgrouse
Finally, while i did not recieve a response to my phone calls, emqils and voice mails. My local gunstore my daughter works at did.


quote:
Per our phone conversation regarding a destroyed/damaged beyond repair silencer, here’s how to notify the NFA Division:

· Write a letter with the details about how the item got damaged beyond repair:

o The silencer needs to be fully identified: make/model/serial number/cal

o Include the date of the damage/destruction and, again, details about what happened

o It would helpful to include a copy of the owner’s Form 4 for reference

o Pictures of the damaged item are helpful as well

o Make sure that the letter is signed

· If the owner of the silencer is a trust, the letter needs to be from the trust.

· The owner should list a way to be contacted in case NFA Branch needs more info.

· Once NFA gets this letter, they will update the registry to show that the item has been destroyed.

· Mail everything to (it’s probably a good idea to send this certified mail or by some other means that will make it possible to confirm that ATF got this stuff):

ATF NFA Branch

244 Needy Road

Martinsburg, WV 25401



If you or the owner has questions, you can call me at the numbers listed below



Stephan





The information contained in this email is not legal advice. Legal advice must be obtained from an attorney who is licensed to practice law.



Stephan Horvath

Regulatory Investigator – Industry Operations

United States Department of Justice

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives

Washington Field Division

Richmond, Virginia




804 200 4141 main line



0 4 1 5 3 interoffice


September 21, 2018, 10:46 AM
DSgrouse
Sad day, Time to move on though.

Wrapping up the letter to the atf about it's demise. Ity weighed just over 2lbs when i put it on the scale. It was well used and loved. Just not salvagable.










October 18, 2018, 12:17 AM
zoom6zoom
Just a note... your old stamp is still worth something. Stamp collectors pay good money for them.




I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm.
October 18, 2018, 05:33 AM
DSgrouse
quote:
Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
Just a note... your old stamp is still worth something. Stamp collectors pay good money for them.


I had not thought of that, i still have it.