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it would be great to get an EO that demanded that wait times from application to approval not exceed 30 days

I do not understand why there is a 1 year wait for something as simple as hearing protection



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Posts: 45676 | Location: Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Because there are tens or hundreds of thousands of forms to process and only so many people to do it. The president could executive order all he wanted, but it wouldn't magically create staff that could process the backlog and I'm guessing even if it did, there would be several weeks of training. Wait times are coming down. Individual transfers are about as short as anybody can remember right now. There NFA Tracker website is starting to show a downward trend in trust submissions. It will keep getting better.

The wait sucks. The wait is bullshit. We all know it.
 
Posts: 2159 | Location: Iowa | Registered: February 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Times could be reduced if they did a name search, collect all items on that person, submitted the prints and paperwork for approval at one time. Now they submit one package, the name comes up again in a week and another entire package goes though the same process again, then again. I submitted three packages two weeks apart. It should go through as one bundle, but it doesn't. Even when people put multiple items in one envelop it doesn't get processed at the same time. How many time in a month do they need to send prints out??
 
Posts: 336 | Location: SE. Florida | Registered: April 05, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Didn't they decrease the time on form 3 transfers so it's faster from manufacturer/distributor to dealer?



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Posts: 5303 | Location: South of Cleveland, OH | Registered: August 09, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Didn't they decrease the time on form 3 transfers so it's faster from manufacturer/distributor to dealer?


Electronic form 3 transfers were running same day to three days recently.
 
Posts: 2159 | Location: Iowa | Registered: February 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by Chowser:
Didn't they decrease the time on form 3 transfers so it's faster from manufacturer/distributor to dealer?


Electronic form 3 transfers were running same day to three days recently.

IIRC, Form three, dealer to dealer for my F/A M11 took about 6 weeks.

Selling dealer said he had to do a paper form, my dealer also had to a paper form to transfer it to me ... He said he couldn't (maybe he just couldn't figure out how to) do the Eform without it coming to him with the barcode on the form.

Anyway, my dealer got it the first week of September hopefully another 2 months and it'll be outta jail ... If so, total of 8 months


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Posts: 4331 | Registered: January 11, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by Chowser:
Didn't they decrease the time on form 3 transfers so it's faster from manufacturer/distributor to dealer?


Electronic form 3 transfers were running same day to three days recently.

IIRC, paper Form three, dealer to dealer for my F/A M11 took about 6 weeks.

Selling dealer said he had to do a paper form, my dealer also had to a paper form to transfer it to me ... He said he couldn't (maybe he just couldn't figure out how to) do the Eform without it coming to him with the barcode on the form.

Anyway, my dealer got it the first week of September hopefully another 2 months and it'll be outta jail ... If so, total of 8 months ... It's getting better! The last suppressors I bought took almost a year


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Posts: 4331 | Registered: January 11, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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All Form 1 and Form 4 transactions are still paper. The barcoding brought out by Silencer Shop and now shared with the industry as a whole is only barcoding the data on the paper form so ATF can put put the form data in their system via a scan instead of hand entering the data.

Electronic Form 3 transactions via eforms is a different animal altogether.
 
Posts: 2159 | Location: Iowa | Registered: February 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The only reason it takes a year is protecting fed.gov and fed.contractor jobs.

Why else does it take a year for BATFE to do the same background check done by FFLs across America in 2 minutes or less?

As for the argument that trusts or corporations are harder or require more scrutiny that is bullshit because a trust or corporation can buy non-NFA taxed firearms in OTC transactions in minutes. No special review by BATFE apparatkniks required!

So why? Because the fed.gov set up a system apart from NICS 75 years ago and will not change it because there are fed.gov and fed.contractor jobs involved.

Year-long waits are horseshit!

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Posts: 26660 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: May 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It would be nice to see a new FFL type that allowed an individual to obtain NFA items immediately, like a C&R for NFA stuff. I mean, a repeal or something would be better, but anything would be good.
 
Posts: 2159 | Location: Iowa | Registered: February 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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