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quarter MOA visionary
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

No, my point is asserting MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 IS DEAD! UPGRADE NOW!!! is just a mite >< over the top.


I don't know any IT professionals that promote upgrading to Windows 10 without evaluating the current situation.

First, we don't like in place upgrades much at all.
Second, upgrading to old hardware is very "iffy" at best.
Third, upgrading without evaluating current software and device compatibility is a mistake.

Hey, if older compatible software, applications, and hardware is doing the job for you then why upgrade?

I do disagree with MS pushing even forcing an upgrade automatically (I can see the shock on your face now). Smile
Mostly because it does not consider all the above reasons.

Moving forward on Windows 10 with current 2017 hardware is definitely recommended.
 
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VLC is a good media player, and free.

Windows Media Player always halfway sucked.




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Uhh, nope. No issue. And no, people using older versions of any hardware won't continue to get anything except *security* updates. That's because Win7 was a dead OS in 2015. Lifted from Microsoft's lifecycle web page:

As I said, the reason newer hardware isn't supported is because Microsoft is no longer developing for those OSes. Period.

Security bugfixes != development.





Exactly, developing drivers (on future hardware) for an extinct OS would be stupid.

If you're talking Redmond, maybe.

For hardware manufacturers, stupid would be ignoring a decently large market segment, and dealing with avoidable retail returns on new products, instead of doing some minor driver tweaks now and then. Wink


It's not a decently large market segment, though. It only feels that way because you're part of it.

Well show me what you got behind that assertion, please.

We are talking usage, not shipments. People selling hardware (and retail software, for that matter) need to deal with installed base, not the flavor of the month.

Here's what I have behind mine.

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Originally posted by joel9507:
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Originally posted by smschulz:
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Originally posted by exx1976:
Uhh, nope. No issue. And no, people using older versions of any hardware won't continue to get anything except *security* updates. That's because Win7 was a dead OS in 2015. Lifted from Microsoft's lifecycle web page:

As I said, the reason newer hardware isn't supported is because Microsoft is no longer developing for those OSes. Period.

Security bugfixes != development.





Exactly, developing drivers (on future hardware) for an extinct OS would be stupid.

If you're talking Redmond, maybe.

For hardware manufacturers, stupid would be ignoring a decently large market segment, and dealing with avoidable retail returns on new products, instead of doing some minor driver tweaks now and then. Wink


It's not a decently large market segment, though. It only feels that way because you're part of it.

Well show me what you got behind that assertion, please.

We are talking usage, not shipments. People selling hardware (and retail software, for that matter) need to deal with installed base, not the flavor of the month.

Here's what I have behind mine.

link1
link2
link3
link4
link5


LOL

I'm not clicking any of those links. Wikipedia? The inquirer? Yeah, no.

I'm finished with this conversation. I don't know why I ever even bother trying to discuss computers with end users. It never ends well.
 
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"End users?!?!"



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I'm with nhtagmember.

I'm still running Windows 7 Home Premium.

I purposely blocked Windows 10. With extreme prejudice.

I'm going to go to another operating system next go around. I'm tired of Windows, source of the rootkit, incompetent lackeys idea of an OS.
 
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"End users?!?!"


Not you but more of people who make stupid statements like:

"I'm going to go to another operating system next go around. I'm tired of Windows, source of the rootkit, incompetent lackeys idea of an OS." Roll Eyes
 
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There are more assholes in a technology discussion than a caliber war! Crazy!




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There are more assholes in a technology discussion than a caliber war! Crazy!


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"I'm going to go to another operating system next go around. I'm tired of Windows, source of the rootkit, incompetent lackeys idea of an OS."


There sure are.
 
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Getting back on track, everything is as it was today.

For the heck of it, I rechecked at mpc-hc.org and they have a 64 bit version that wasn't up the other day. It now works as it did before.

Feeling lucky, I checked MS for any updates, yep, a pretty big one.

Who would have guessed, Movie Maker is fully functional now.

I had an easy and quick workflow for my simple needs, it's back on track.

VLC solved many problems but I wasn't fully up to speed. I'll put it on the back burner now until the time inevitably comes up that I'll need it. It didn't solve all my problems and I was still looking for another solution. Movie Maker converts files much quicker and easily and its outputs are compatible with one another. I have to say to world of video editing and manipulation is not that straightforward and intuitive, MPC x64 and Movie Maker do a lot of it for me.

Thanks to all, you guys are great.




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