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50. Ilhan Omar
51. Elizabeth Warren
52. Kathy Griffin
53. Alyssa Milano
54. Jim Carrey


That's awesome!!!!




Yup, this should be fun to watch. These people are all mouth. Maybe now they'll STFU. I hope they're stressing over this BIG TIME!
 
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https://lawandcrime.com/legal-...th-a-rookie-mistake/

Nick Sandmann’s Lawyers May Have Just Cost Him Millions with a Rookie Mistake

long story short:

The Wash Post has 6 days to issue a retraction to avoid the punitive part of the $ 250 Million lawsuit.

from the article:

As a result of alleged harm to his reputation, Sandmann’s lawsuit asks for $50 million in compensatory damages and $200 million in punitive damages.

The punitive damages, however, may be a problem due to a requirement under Kentucky law to give sufficient notice in libel cases. The statute, KRS 411.051, says that in order to collect punitive damages, a plaintiff has to show that the defendant “failed to make conspicuous and timely publication of a correction after receiving a sufficient demand for correction.” The law specifies that a “timely” correction has to be within 10 business days after receiving a demand for one.

Sandmann’s complaint, which was filed and dated Feb. 19, 2019, says that his counsel send a demand for a retraction on Feb. 14. That’s just five days before they filed the lawsuit, which appears to be an insufficient amount of time.



Lin Wood response to the Dan Abrams article:

This “rookie” knows that the retraction demand must only be served before a complaint is filed. This “rookie” knows Post has 6 more days to retract. Let’s see if a retraction is issued.

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in sounds like even if the Wash Post retracts, the $50 mil in compensatory damages can go forward

slick move by Lin Wood. Put pressure on to retract, then use that retraction in the compensatory lawsuit
 
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I hope the obstinate motherfuckers don't respond and get their lying leftist asses handed to them in court.
 
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The suit isn't about money. It's about holding the mass media accountable when they make up a story or misrepresent the facts for ratings, impact, or to drive an agenda.




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^^^ Agreed, but any monetary award will help make it sting more!




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sweet

about time someone took the media and did to them what they've been doing to us

I hope he prevails, and prevails big time

the media will appeal of course and I hope it gets slapped down



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Posts: 53177 | Location: Tucson Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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sometimes our laws and our lawyers sound pretty ridiculous

a big legal debate on whether 16 y.o. Nick Sandmann is a "private figure" or a "public figure"

"public figure" - someone who “thrust themselves to the forefront of particular controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved” and therefore “invite attention and comment.”

of course Sandmann is a private figure

https://www.foxnews.com/us/cov...nificant-case-or-not
 
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sometimes our laws and our lawyers sound pretty ridiculous

a big legal debate on whether 16 y.o. Nick Sandmann is a "private figure" or a "public figure"

"public figure" - someone who “thrust themselves to the forefront of particular controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved” and therefore “invite attention and comment.”

of course Sandmann is a private figure

https://www.foxnews.com/us/cov...nificant-case-or-not
Silly but expected that it is even a conversation.

Sandmann was thrust into the "public" by the very assholes he's suing, because they did it. Tards...


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Somebody got a letter



https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.6607ffa6712f

By Washington Post Staff March 1 at 5:17 PM
A Washington Post article first posted online on Jan. 19 reported on a Jan. 18 incident at the Lincoln Memorial. Subsequent reporting, a student’s statement and additional video allow for a more complete assessment of what occurred, either contradicting or failing to confirm accounts provided in that story — including that Native American activist Nathan Phillips was prevented by one student from moving on, that his group had been taunted by the students in the lead-up to the encounter, and that the students were trying to instigate a conflict. The high school student facing Phillips issued a statement contradicting his account; the bishop in Covington, Ky., apologized for the statement condemning the students; and an investigation conducted for the Diocese of Covington and Covington Catholic High School found the students’ accounts consistent with videos. Subsequent Post coverage, including video, reported these developments: “Viral standoff between a tribal elder and a high schooler is more complicated than it first seemed”; “Kentucky bishop apologizes to Covington Catholic students, says he expects their exoneration”; “Investigation finds no evidence of ‘racist or offensive statements’ in Mall incident.”

A Jan. 22 correction to the original story reads: Earlier versions of this story incorrectly said that Native American activist Nathan Phillips fought in the Vietnam War. Phillips said he served in the U.S. Marines but was never deployed to Vietnam.



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Posts: 29408 | Location: In the red hinterlands of Deep Blue VA | Registered: June 29, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Lin Wood tweet:

On behalf of Nicholas Sandmann & his family, Todd McMurtry @FitLwyr and I will issue a formal statement on Monday responding to the actions taken today by The Washington Post & a letter received late this evening from its general counsel.

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was the Wash Post update just outside the time window to take the punitive part of the lawsuit off the table ?

Am rooting hard for Lin Wood and Nick Sandmann to kick some serious ass.

Wash Post is the big dog here. A lot of the other people on the list are going to think real hard about formal retractions.

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adding:

since the notice was filed 19 Feb 2019, it looks like Wash Post just made the 10 day deadline for their "retraction"

One of Sandmann's attorneys (Todd McMurty):

“What The Washington Post put out is barely worth comment,”

“WaPo committed gross journalistic malpractice and cannot undo its deeds with an editor’s note that purports to correct the record over a month after it led a frenzied mob in trashing a minor’s reputation. The Sandmanns would never accept half of a half-measure from an organization that still refuses to own up to its error.”

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Posts: 19572 | Registered: July 21, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Lawyer Lin Wood not impressed w Wash Post "retraction"

Lin Wood tweets (today):

Washington Post “deletes” false tweet & immediately reposts it. The act of an arrogant, non-contrite bully. Media bully learns no lesson until it pays for damage, unequivocally admits wrongdoing & pledges to never again bully & falsely attack child without proper investigation.


Guiding principle of journalism is accuracy. “Get it right.” When mistakes are made, accuracy demands nothing less than unequivocal retraction. When innocent child is attacked by false reporting, decency also demands an apology. Where is your retraction & apology Washington Post?

Washington Post offers neither retraction nor apology. Failure to admit & correct its reckless & false reporting only perpetuates lies published in its original stories. Bullies always run from accountability. Post is running from truth & hiding behind legal posturing. Cowardly.

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side note: Wood is also the lawyer for Brit diver Vernon Unsworth.

Unsworth is suing Elon Musk over comments made during the diving rescue of the Thailand soccer team in July 2018.
 
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The only downside to this whole Trainwreck is that it is in slow motion. It will take years for the guilty parties to feel pain. But I'm willing to wait



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Lawyer Lin Wood response to Wash Post

http://www.hemmerlaw.com/blog/...the-washington-post/

STATEMENT OF L. LIN WOOD and TODD MCMURTRY REGARDING NICHOLAS SANDMANN and THE WASHINGTON POST

March 4, 2019

In a span of 3 days beginning on January 19, The Washington Post rushed to claim leadership of a mainstream and social media mob of bullies who falsely attacked, vilified and threatened Nicholas Sandmann, an innocent 16-year old boy. Late last Friday evening, 41 days after it launched its false attacks on a minor, the Post published an Editor’s Note and delivered to Nicholas’ lawyers a letter from its General Counsel, Jay Kennedy. With its unlimited financial resources, the Post likely spent tens of thousands of dollars on media defense lawyers to publicly parse and spin its false coverage in an effort to avoid accountability and limit its legal responsibility for its wrongdoing. The Post’s efforts were too little and too late.

The Friday night efforts by the Post to whitewash its wrongdoing were untimely, grossly insufficient and did little more than perpetuate the lies it published – lies that will haunt and adversely impact Nicholas for the rest of his life.

The Post ignored its own culpability and wrongdoing. Mr. Kennedy’s letter stated that the Post “provided accurate coverage.” It did not and its belated public relations efforts change nothing and fool no one. The Post made no effort to retract and correct the lies it published.

The Post did not have the integrity to unequivocally admit its negligent and reckless violations of fundamental journalistic standards documented by its complete failure to investigate the incident at the National Mall before publishing lies about a child. One need only review the Post’s published list of its own Policies and Standards at https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.ec515ec8b6aa to find violation after violation after violation.

The Post did not have the character to apologize to Nicholas and seek his forgiveness.

Highlighting its arrogance and lack of contrition, the Post announced its “deletion” of one of its false and defamatory tweets about the incident and Nicholas by re-posting the tweet so that its lies will also forever remain available on the Internet and in social media.

False accusations against an adult destroy a lifetime of accomplishments. False accusations against children forever rob them of their inherent right to define their lives for themselves and force them to suffer a life tainted and damaged by the permanent shadow of the lies.

Last Friday night the Post made clear that it has learned no lesson and remains willing in the future to falsely attack others to further its political agenda, including false attacks on children.

The Post has now double downed on its lies. As Nicholas’s lawyers, we will now double down on truth and aggressively continue our legal efforts to hold the Post accountable and obtain justice for Nicholas in a court of law.
 
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CNN to be sued for more than $250M over 'vicious' and 'direct attacks' on Covington High student: lawyer

CNN is likely to be hit with a massive lawsuit worth more than $250 million over alleged “vicious” and “direct attacks” on Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann, his lawyer has told Fox News.

Lawyer L. Lin Wood discussed his decision to sue CNN for its reporting and coverage of his client during an interview that will air on Fox News Channel’s “Life, Liberty & Levin” on Sunday at 10 p.m. ET.

“CNN was probably more vicious in its direct attacks on Nicholas than The Washington Post. And CNN goes into millions of individuals' homes,” Wood told Fox News host and best-selling author Mark Levin.

“CNN couldn't resist the idea that here's a guy with a young boy, that Make America Great Again cap on. So they go after him”
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“They really went after Nicholas with the idea that he was part of a mob that was attacking the Black Hebrew Israelites, yelling racist slurs at the Black Hebrew Israelites. Totally false.

“Now you say you've seen the tape; if you took the time to look at the full context of what happened that day, Nicholas Sandmann did absolutely nothing wrong. He was, as I've said to others, he was the only adult in the room. But you have a situation where CNN couldn't resist the idea that here's a guy with a young boy, that Make America Great Again cap on. So they go after him.”

Wood continued: “The CNN folks were online on Twitter at 7 a.m retweeting the little one-minute propaganda piece that had been put out. … They're out there right away going after this young boy. And they maintain it for at least two days. Why didn't they stop and just take an hour and look through the Internet and find the truth and then report it? Maybe do that before you report the lies.”

Wood then detailed the timing of the suit, saying it will be issued “Monday, Tuesday at the latest.”

“I've got some young, smart lawyers that are working hard as we can," he told Levin. "Double-checking, and listen, when we file complaints, we've investigated it because we want to get it right. Maybe CNN can learn from that."

Wood month filed suit last month against The Washington Post. The suit calls for $250 million in compensatory and punitive damages over the paper's coverage of the confrontation, an encounter that went viral on social media. He told Fox News that the claim against CNN is apt to be even higher.

“I expect because of the way they went after Nicholas so viciously, that the claim for his reputational damage will be higher than it was against The Washington Post,” the veteran attorney said.

“The Post was $50 million for the reputational damage … $200 million in punitive damages -- punitive damages are designed to punish and to deter.

“I would think the punitive-damage award against CNN that we’ll seek will be at least the same $200 million as it was against The Washington Post. But the compensatory damage to Nicholas's reputation, that number I expect will be higher.”

The lawsuit against The Washington Post accused that outlet of practicing "a modern-day form of McCarthyism" by targeting Sandmann and "using its vast financial resources to enter the bully pulpit by publishing a series of false and defamatory print and online articles ... to smear a young boy who was, in its view, an acceptable casualty in their war against the president."

Several days ago, The Post published an editor’s note admitting that subsequent information either contradicted or failed to confirm accounts relayed in its initial article. The editor’s note was not satisfactory to Sandmann’s legal team.

Sandmann, a junior at Covington Catholic High School, became a target for outrage after a video of him standing face-to-face with a Native American man, Nathan Phillips, while wearing a red Make America Great Again hat surfaced in January. Sandmann was one of a group of students from Covington attending the anti-abortion March for Life in Washington, D.C., while Phillips was attending the Indigenous Peoples' March on the same day.

Sandmann and the Covington students were initially accused of initiating the confrontation, but other videos and the students' own statements showed that they were verbally accosted by a group of black street preachers who were shouting insults at them and the Native Americans. Sandmann and Phillips have both said they were trying to defuse the situation.

Last month, investigators hired by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington concluded that the students did not instigate the confrontation with Phillips. Bishop Roger Foys, who initially condemned the students' behavior, wrote in a letter to parents that they had been "placed in a situation that was at once bizarre and even threatening."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/cnn...-high-student-lawyer


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I am no fan of lawsuits to respond to every imagined, or even every real, offense, but this one makes me smile every time I read about it. Smile




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Me, too. Was just telling the Mrs. about the progress and we both got to giggling.

Finally, someone is taking those "journalists Roll Eyes " to the cleaners.


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Attorney Lin Wood will be on Fox News' "Life, Liberty & Levin" at 10PM EST Sunday 3-10 for an hour with Mark.




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Lin Wood tweet:

CNN needs to write on the chalk board 275,000,000 times “We will never again falsely attack, vilify, or threaten a minor child.”

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implication is the law suit against CNN will be $ 275 million


Lin Wood:

"Nicholas was collateral damage. The war that CNN is waging is against the President of the United States"
 
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I am no fan of lawsuits to respond to every imagined, or even every real, offense, but this one makes me smile every time I read about it. Smile

Losing massive amounts of money in litigation is absolutely the only way the MSM will ever be held accountable for its biased actions in this case.
 
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Lawyer Lin Wood tweet today:

Judges who convert to TV commentators should accurately state law. @Judgenap claims minors have no reputation upon which to base defamation case.

Wrong.

Minors have same rights & protections under defamation law as adults & can also seek damages for emotional distress. Libel 101.
 
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