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The P230 raffle is being cancelled

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November 05, 2019, 11:13 PM
CoolRich59
The P230 raffle is being cancelled
E-mail inbound to you Arc.

Para, thank you for this opportunity.


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November 06, 2019, 01:02 AM
Nuclear
I wasn't in on the raffle because the gun in question just wasn't my thing, but now that some mealy mouth anonymous worm doesn't want us to have the wrong kind of fun, I will absolutely participate in whatever future activities of this type that happen!
November 06, 2019, 01:27 AM
wildheartedson0105
Anonymous. Chickenshit move.

Thank you, para, for my online home. No better place to be.

Email sent, arc.


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November 06, 2019, 04:08 AM
sybo
I am so disappointed in the closing of this raffle...... it’s really sad and frankly it sucks.
November 06, 2019, 04:22 AM
nukeandpave
Yeah, we dont get to have a raffle.

But anonymous has to live out his or her days a sniveling, cowardly piece of shit.
November 06, 2019, 04:25 AM
BurtonRW
quote:
Originally posted by BigCity:
I did not enter since I refuse to get the HQL that Maryland requires before a handgun can be purchased.


You're not alone, brother. I'm a HQL instructor, but I'll be damned if I'm going to have one. I had enough pistols before 10/1/13, that I'm good to go. Just frees up more money for HBARs and .50BMGs.

So, along with Maryland kissing my ass, I'm going to peel off some of my AR/.50 fund to go to this fine forum and while I'm at it, a little more to DJT2020 as well.

Email inbound, Arc.

-Rob




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November 06, 2019, 08:04 AM
SW_Sig
Is the issue because it is a raffle or a firearm raffle?

I came up against Texas law for raffles some years back while I was doing consulting for the American Diabetes Association.

Like here, we had to cancel the raffle (multiple items donated by Dell).
November 06, 2019, 08:09 AM
just1tym
In a most recent email to para I can attest to how gracious he was in his reply. I had offered a private donation out of my gratitude to use up space with photo's in a section of the Gallery. He explained that the space and file size of the photos were on the hosts. He graciously declined my offer and I'd be more than happy to send my offer again. Sigforum, thank you, you've helped me in ways other than you can imagine.

Email will be forthcoming..thank you.
***DONATION SENT***


Regards, Will G.
November 06, 2019, 08:49 AM
DrewR
I won’t lie, I am a little sad that the raffle has been cancelled but I completely understand why. I will email Arc to tell him to keep my entry because even though I have only been a member for a few years I have been lurking about this forum for much longer. This is a wonderful place with great people. Thank you!


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November 06, 2019, 10:36 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by SW_Sig:
Is the issue because it is a raffle or a firearm raffle?
Just the raffle itself.
November 06, 2019, 10:41 AM
HRK
Theres always one in the bunch, if it was about state legalities you'd have thought the person would contact the Admins and advise of the potential for having an issue in that state.

Most likely a troll, we wuz m'cain'd LOL

Buncha smart folks here, some with real legal backgrounds, others with Holiday Inn Degrees we should be able to come up with a solution...
November 06, 2019, 11:23 AM
bendable
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by SW_Sig:
Is the issue because it is a raffle or a firearm raffle?
Just the raffle itself.



is it canceled because the website was doing the raffle ?

or are members wanting to get rid of a telescope in the form of a raffle banned as well?

( medical bills piling up)





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November 06, 2019, 11:29 AM
molachi
Just sent Arc an email advising him that I don't want a refund.
November 06, 2019, 11:47 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
is it canceled because the website was doing the raffle ?
Yes
quote:
or are members wanting to get rid of a telescope in the form of a raffle banned as well?
I don't know how to answer your question, bendable.
November 06, 2019, 02:21 PM
WildSig
Sorry to hear this had to be cancelled.

I am however grateful it was opened up for donations and sent something off to Arc to add to the pile.

Not much but every little bit helps. Thanks again for giving good people a place to hang, lurk, contribute and learn about just about anything in life.
November 06, 2019, 02:34 PM
bukerhammer
Sorry to hear the raffle has been cancelded. I did send Arc and email to add my check to the Sig Forum Donation. I very much enjoy this Forum so keep up the great work!
November 06, 2019, 04:35 PM
NavyGuy
I didn't enter the raffle as I'm currently scaling down my little collection. Don't shoot near as much as I used to, and I don't want to saddle my wife with liquidation after I'm gone. No, I'm not anticipating checking out in the near future but I'm sure my wife will out live me. She's as strong as an ox. As in the past, I'd contribute to the forum and not expect anything in return except continued ad free access and a great bunch of forum members -- as it's been for the many years I've hung out here.

My question though, is was this an issue because it was a fire arm being raffled, or some a-hole that though the owners were taking advantage of the members.



Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.

-D.H. Lawrence
November 06, 2019, 04:49 PM
SW_Sig
NavyGuy,

See Para’s reply above. Not because it was a firearm being raffled, just because it was a raffle.
November 06, 2019, 06:54 PM
SSgt USMC/Vet
Their are hunting clubs in Virginia that sell tickets, I guess it would be considered a raffle that use the daily pick 3 (Virginia) lottery drawing. The daily prizes consist of hand guns, rifles and shotguns along with other merchandise. The membership sell and purchase the so call raffle tickets and tickets are sold to non members also. Can someone explain the difference other than the state laws in which the raffle is held. It is the same thing to me.
November 06, 2019, 08:11 PM
Wino
It’s apparent that the members here would love the opportunity to help Para and the rest of the staff here defray the costs associated with keeping this forum running now and into the future.

Please consider maybe a once year open donation to keep this amazing community going for as long as you want it to last.

It would be OUR privilege to contribute.