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Fourth line skater
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I've always been afraid of flying. I just got to the point where I can do it comfortably. I think I'll pass on the videos. Ignorance has served me well so far.


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But you know what the strangest thing is?? My smoothest landings have occurred after a bumpier-then-hell approach down the localizer combined with gusty cross-winds 60* off the nose. Had people tell me they didn't even know we landed. Light airplane with calm winds? Yeah....I'll plow that bad boy on there almost every time. Make EXTREMELY good use of that trailing link landing gear..... Eek
Yep, now that's the God's honest truth.

I hate light winds right down the runway.


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But you know what the strangest thing is?? My smoothest landings have occurred after a bumpier-then-hell approach down the localizer combined with gusty cross-winds 60* off the nose. Had people tell me they didn't even know we landed. Light airplane with calm winds? Yeah....I'll plow that bad boy on there almost every time. Make EXTREMELY good use of that trailing link landing gear..... Eek
Yep, now that's the God's honest truth.

I hate light winds right down the runway.



RETARD!
RETARD!!
RETARD!!!

Big Grin
 
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I just flew home to CRW from ATL Wed night
Landing in Charleston is always bumpy, and we had a little weather to boot

Some of the passengers were getting a little jumpy

The look on the youngish pilots face as he greeted us on the way out made it clear he earned his money that night
 
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We flew from Knoxville to Nashville (and on to Jamaica) on our honeymoon, and the flight had several really enormous air pockets (or whatever you call it when the aircraft drops like a rock for a second or two). Felt like a roller coaster ride.

My wife didn't have her seatbelt tight, and I reached over during one event and yanked her belt down hard to keep her in the seat. We were leaving the plane and the pilot was telling everyone bye, and my wife started fussing at him because he was smiling and smirking - it was a tiny jet and he had heard her gasping and such while we were in flight.


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One last update on all this.

Today I was in the simulator for my first session with the motion on. In it, I practiced a 40 knot (roughly 46 mph) crosswind with gusts and turbulence. I did it, and then my brand new squeaky shiny new-hire partner flew them, and neither of is did anything near what the video pilot was doing.

Again...caveats. We were in a simulator, he was in real life. We were at least twice as heavy as he was. Having said that, there weren't any control movements even half of what our video captain was doing. I just thought I would share since I was actually trying to deal with what we have all been discussing. A timely and interesting bit of fun.


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Enjoy the upgrade! (As much as it is possible.) May "session 4" be peaceful, smooth and un-noteworthy!!
 
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The Fluffy can be a bit of a rollercoaster.

I had quite a few rides in the Base Flight T-39 in the 70s at Eglin, and it was similar to this on the windy days.




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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
But you know what the strangest thing is?? My smoothest landings have occurred after a bumpier-then-hell approach down the localizer combined with gusty cross-winds 60* off the nose. Had people tell me they didn't even know we landed. Light airplane with calm winds? Yeah....I'll plow that bad boy on there almost every time. Make EXTREMELY good use of that trailing link landing gear..... Eek
Yep, now that's the God's honest truth.

I hate light winds right down the runway.



RETARD!
RETARD!!
RETARD!!!

Big Grin


With a French accent!

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RETARD!
RETARD!!
RETARD!!!

Big Grin


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Not an airliner pilot (though I do hold an ATP MEL), but I'd say while that may be one way to do it, it may not be the best. Different pilots take different approaches, but "surfing" as Otto put it, or rolling with the punches makes for a smoother and more efficient ride.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPyCywd4o5E

is there a ton of throttle work while attempting this,
or barley any at all?





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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPyCywd4o5E

is there a ton of throttle work while attempting this,
or barley any at all?


Depends on the winds, I've never done anything as extreme as that.

But typically on approach with a piston plane you use is pitch to control the airspeed and power to control altitude (though that is highly simplified in reality you are adjusting both at the same time).


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