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I got the J&J shot this Sunday, there was a walk in opening where I was already at. That afternoon I read about some of the speculations on it being linked to blood clots. Started taking a low dose aspirin at night, will probably continue for a month or two.
 
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^^^^You might want to check with your doctor first. I sent an inquiry to mine this morning regarding whether to take a low dose aspirin, having been vaccinated with the the J&J last Friday. His response was:

“No, this type of clotting is actually associated with low platelets, a clotting factor that aspirin interferes with . So taking aspirin would be a problem. The good news is that this is very very very rare and unlikely to occur. I appreciate your concern, but taking aspirin is not advised.”


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Blood clots are one thing, deaths are another. The question is why hasn’t the gubbamint paused the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines because of their problems?...


Blood clots sound a bit more serious than the chills or joint pain that are side effects of the other two. Don’t know if it means anything, but the Pfizer and Moderna reported side effects show up 12-24 hours after the shot, and go away after a day or so. The J&J blood clots are showing up 1-2 weeks after the shot.

It’s interesting that J&J and AZ are viral vector vaccines and both have reported blood clotting problems, while the two mRNA vaccines haven’t reported this problem.


Deaths have been associated with the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. Look it up.


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I'm just going to let all you beta testers keep going here and maybe in a year or so I'll get it...


 
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The Costanza is my choice. After all, no other vaccine comes with its own holiday...
 
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Blood clots are one thing, deaths are another. The question is why hasn’t the gubbamint paused the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines because of their problems?...


Blood clots sound a bit more serious than the chills or joint pain that are side effects of the other two. Don’t know if it means anything, but the Pfizer and Moderna reported side effects show up 12-24 hours after the shot, and go away after a day or so. The J&J blood clots are showing up 1-2 weeks after the shot.

It’s interesting that J&J and AZ are viral vector vaccines and both have reported blood clotting problems, while the two mRNA vaccines haven’t reported this problem.


Deaths have been associated with the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. Look it up.


Given that something like 190 million shots have been given in the US, and less than 10 million of those have been J&J, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few deaths. Wake me when we get close to the 500,000+ deaths from Covid.
 
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Wake me when we get close to the 500,000+ deaths from Covid.

Everyone who dies of ANY cause is counted as a "Covid Death", if they test positive for having Covid in their system.

Does that means that all deaths of vaccinated people should be counted as "Vaccine Death"?

No?

Shall we consider this just another standard double standard?

Oh, since virtually no one dies of anything except Covid anymore, does that mean that once everyone is vaccinated that all deaths will stop and we will all live forever?

Probably we'll just go back to dying of other things.



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Given that something like 190 million shots have been given in the US...

190 million / 330 million = .575

So ... you're saying that nearly 58% of the people have already been vaccinated?



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Given that something like 190 million shots have been given in the US...

190 million / 330 million = .575

So ... you're saying that nearly 58% of the people have already been vaccinated?

Since almost half the shots are the second shot to the same person, it works out because I think almost 25% of US population has been vaccinated.




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So, if I'm reading that about 40% don't want the shot... we should be able to shut down all of these vaccine centers in another two weeks or so?



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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...coronavirus-vaccine/

U.S. federal health agencies will issue a joint call Tuesday for Washington to begin an “immediate pause” in the rollout of Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose coronavirus vaccine.

The move comes as six Americans have reportedly developed a rare disorder involving blood clots, and one later died, after receiving the shot.

The New York Times reports all six recipients were women between the ages of 18 and 48, and now federal agencies want a pause in the distribution of the vaccine out of “an abundance of caution.”

“We are recommending a pause in the use of this vaccine out of an abundance of caution,” Dr. Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, and Dr. Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the CDC, said in a joint statement. “Right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare.”

This was to “ensure that the health care provider community is aware of the potential for these adverse events.”

Johnson & Johnson issued a statement of its own saying safety was its “number one priority” and it shared “all adverse event reports” with the health authorities.

It added: “We are aware that thromboembolic events including those with thrombocytopenia have been reported with Covid-19 vaccines. At present, no clear causal relationship has been established between these rare events and the Janssen (J&J) Covid-19 vaccine.”

The BBC reports the U.S.-based company said it would continue to work closely with the regulators.

The U.S. has already vaccinated more than seven million people with the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine, indicating the rarity of developing the blood clot disorder, and has ordered millions more doses.

Yesterday, Australia said it would no longer purchase the Johnson & Johnson vaccine because it “is an adenovirus vaccine, the same type of vaccine as the AstraZeneca vaccine” — which it slapped with a warning against use on people under 50.

As Breitbart news reported, Australia has deals in place with Pfizer and AstraZeneca as well as Novavax — which has yet to produce an approved vaccine — and was in negotiations with Johnson & Johnson when the decision was made.



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Wake me when we get close to the 500,000+ deaths from Covid.

Everyone who dies of ANY cause is counted as a "Covid Death", if they test positive for having Covid in their system.

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Does that means that all deaths of vaccinated people should be counted as "Vaccine Death"?

Seems reasonable to me.

Y'know, I once bought into the whole Government/Health "Care" System/Dominant Media/Karens narrative. But eventually that cabal just straight out jumped the shark. Hell, they jumped a whole shiver of sharks.

Now I regard anything and everything they claim with a healthy does of skepticism.



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I think it's the government managing the quantities of vaccine..... Need to use up the less preferred some.
 
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Well, I've been Pfizer-ized.

The deed is done.




The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC

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May the odds be ever in your favor! Wink


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Vaccine Recalled After Two People Who Took It Fell Down A Manhole And Died

April 14th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com



WASHINGTON D.C.—The Food and Drug Administration has asked for all Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines to be recalled and destroyed after two different people who took the vaccine died, both having fallen down open manholes within a week of taking the drug.

“We just want to have an overabundance of caution here,” explained Doctor Anthony Fauci. “That’s why all Johnson & Johnson vaccines are being destroyed, and anyone who has already taken the vaccine is being placed under house arrest to keep them away from streets with manholes.”

Fauci said they’re also considering a pause on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines as a few people who have taken those have slipped on banana peels.

Some are criticizing the recall of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine since nearly seven million people have taken it and only two have fallen down a manhole, making the risk seem minuscule -- especially compared to the death rate of COVID-19. Also, not everyone is sure those deaths are related to the vaccine and believe they may in fact be caused by the carelessness of construction workers.

Dr. Fauci has dismissed these criticisms. “Everyone wants things to make sense, but I think we’ve made it clear that’s not how we approach things,” said Fauci. “And who is in a big rush to end this pandemic, anyway? We all like wearing masks and staying home. We especially like seeing me on TV all the time. Or at least I know I do.”



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I wanted the J&J and had an appointment yesterday, but then came the pause. I was able to get Pfizer as a substitute, which was my second choice. Just a sore arm today. I have heard some bad reactions to Moderna, but I think it is dependent on each person. I did not want the vaccine, but the wife is pregnant so I decided to do all I can from bringing it come. She will not be getting the vaccine while pregnant....her OB very much agrees with that decision.



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Well, I've been Pfizer-ized.

The deed is done.


Hopefully nothing of it but I actually had some mild oddities on day 3 and 4 after the second Pfizer dose. Slight dizzy feeling and a weird sensation around my mouth and lips. My wife said one of her coworkers also had the tingly lip side effect too.
 
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IT’s SO EXCITING!

Pfizer #1 today. Got it at lunch. Injection site is sore but I still went to the gym after work and lifted. Figured it would give me a problem with weighted dips but nah. Feel fine outside of the sore arm. Better than a sore ass! Round #2 in 3 weeks. Will chime in then.



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