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I have no experience with Germany, but I doubt it is US like.

I have some experience in Germany, altho, it has been a decade or so since I was over there. Still have family and friends there. Not much has changed.

One stark example, you have to register with the police, giving your address, etc. If you move to a different address/town you have to update your registration with the police.

Oh, not to mention that 2A issue either.

One example from quite a while ago, I was driver of the guard and we got a report from the German police that they needed help. I got to drive the German cop around looking for some dirt bag who had reportedly hit an American kid in the housing area. German was driving a tractor.

I asked the cop what we/I should do if the "perp" resisted when we found the guy. The cop's answer was, and I quote, "SHOOT HIM!"

Saw a German traffic cop on the autobahn at a construction zone where the lanes reduce to one.

Signs for at least a mile about the restriction, no passing, etc.

As I got up to the barricade, this idiot in a Mercedes came screaming up and was forcing his way into the single lane when a cop stepped out from behind one of the traffic control barrels and waved the guy over.

Guy jumped out of his mercedes, started waving his arms at the cop.

Cop reached down, took out his leather and lead sap, smacked dooffus upside the head. Hauled him off to the local jail. At least I assume it was to jail and they put him in a paddy wagon.


To the original question, helping the political right? Not much we can do, they have their own ways, means to get their jobs done. Some of our freedoms are totally unknown over there.

Damned cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

I don't suppose that Macron's policies will lead to the sixth republic? LePen took a solid third of the vote, and historically, that's about the percentage you need to carry a revolution.

I doubt anything that interesting will happen in my lifetime, though. Not in France.

-Rob

There is no way to help the right wing minorities until the abuses ratchet up to the point where more join the right wingers.... by then it will most assuredly be too late.

the French voted to slide even further to the left

apparently most of them are happy with that so more power to them

Better in Europe than here - keep the borders wide open.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
the French voted to slide even further to the left

apparently most of them are happy with that so more power to them

No. They voted to stay the course. Pure continuity. Macron is not left of Holland. If anything, Macron's economic policies are center-right, much more conservative than Le Pen in fact.

No, what the French decided is that they are going to continue to turn a blind eye to the very real terrorist problem in their country. Their plan--which is obvious from their vote--is to do what I did in school when I had a report due that I didn't feel like doing. Ignore it and hope that the problem will just fix itself.

Well I failed that report...

So what will the French do if things get worse? Just sit there and suffer, or demand new elections?

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
So what will the French do if things get worse? Just sit there and suffer, or demand new elections?

They will do what history has shown them to be best at.... surrender. Very sad, they could have slammed the brakes on this out of control invasion, yet chose not to.

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Originally posted by MTJbyrd:
Putin has discovered he can destroy western democracies without firing a shot. There are Quislings everywhere, and all he has to do is help them out.
By seeding dissension,he has weakened NATO and the European Union, and by helping elect Trump he has removed American leadership from the picture.

Stowe your ignorant shit elsewhere. We know who elected Trump, the American People.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

No. They voted to stay the course. Pure continuity.

This is pretty typical- I have found the French often avoid change. They tell me daily that things cannot be done "pas possible" when I ask why not, they respond that "because they have always done it this way..." So translating this to how they voted, it has a lot to do with that they don't like change. Socialism is comfortable to them knowing the French government says they will take care of them for the rest of their lives.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
No. They voted to stay the course. Pure continuity. Macron is not left of Holland. If anything, Macron's economic policies are center-right, much more conservative than Le Pen in fact.

No, what the French decided is that they are going to continue to turn a blind eye to the very real terrorist problem in their country. ...

Yea... Macron is better than Holland in many ways. Hopefully, he will learn that he can't ignore the terrorist threat.

I think the EU is a mistake and I've thought so since it became more than a free-trade zone. Trading is good, giving up national sovereignty and your own currency is not good.

This is a long, but excellent article about European self-destruction. Really worth the read.

https://pjmedia.com/election/2...-happened-in-france/

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Originally posted by justjoe:
This is a long, but excellent article about European self-destruction. Really worth the read.
https://pjmedia.com/election/2...-happened-in-france/

Yes, thanks for posting.

For those who don't read the whole thing, a few snippets:

There are kind people who, the minute there's any hint of trouble – which means, way before the death-camp round-up begins – prefer to lie low. Their highest value isn't truth or virtue or beauty or even long-term security for them and their families but the ability to buy another day without major trouble.

You'd think they'd be able to look forward at least some distance into the future and dwell on that grim prospect. Able to see their children, their grandchildren, and so forth, living under sharia law. If, indeed, lucky to be living at all.

But I think it needs to be recognized that for some people, seeing that far into the future is just beyond their intellectual grasp. Or beyond what they dare to envision.

And the conclusion:

They've been psychologically manipulated to the point where they truly believe, on some level, at least in some Orwellian doublethink kind of way, that acting in clear defense of their own existence, their own culture, their own values, and their own posterity, is an act of ugly prejudice.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

They've been psychologically manipulated to the point where they truly believe, on some level, at least in some Orwellian doublethink kind of way, that acting in clear defense of their own existence, their own culture, their own values, and their own posterity, is an act of ugly prejudice.

That's exactly right. Exactly.

I had really no doubt that Le Pen would lose, not because of what the polls were saying, but because this is frankly the attitude that I have experienced with practically every French person I have come across in the last seven years that I have been traveling to France.

That one sentence perfectly describes why the Front National was never going to win the French presidency, at least not yet. The fear of being called prejudice, racist, nationalist, etc. simply outweighs all other good senses of self preservation.

I predict that in the coming months and years, the FN will slowly evolve though to try and minimize the stigma of prejudice that comes with their past and their identity. Watch as they change the name of their party and likely tone down their rhetoric a bit in order to get an even firmer foothold into the national political scene.

I'm praying for France. But I have a stake in the game there. I'll keep doing my part.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by MTJbyrd:
Putin has discovered he can destroy western democracies without firing a shot. There are Quislings everywhere, and all he has to do is help them out.
By seeding dissension,he has weakened NATO and the European Union, and by helping elect Trump he has removed American leadership from the picture.

Really, dude?

Yeah, you beat me to it!

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Originally posted by chellim1:
They've been psychologically manipulated to the point where they truly believe, on some level, at least in some Orwellian doublethink kind of way, that acting in clear defense of their own existence, their own culture, their own values, and their own posterity, is an act of ugly prejudice.

That describes the American left and the Social Justice Warriors to a T.

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by MTJbyrd:
Putin has discovered he can destroy western democracies without firing a shot. There are Quislings everywhere, and all he has to do is help them out.
By seeding dissension,he has weakened NATO and the European Union, and by helping elect Trump he has removed American leadership from the picture.

Really, dude?

Yeah, you beat me to it!

I hear this kind of crap from liberals every day at work, I am not surprised to read it here too.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
They've been psychologically manipulated to the point where they truly believe, on some level, at least in some Orwellian doublethink kind of way, that acting in clear defense of their own existence, their own culture, their own values, and their own posterity, is an act of ugly prejudice.

That describes the American left and the Social Justice Warriors to a T.

The hope for America is that while we certainly have many who are as pathetic as the Europeans, we have others-- like us-- who value freedom and everything that America represents. And like others before us, we will die to preserve that, if we need to. Sharia Law will roll over Europe.

But not here.

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Sharia Law will roll over Europe.

But not here.

Maybe....

But the French defeated the Islamic caliphate (that once stretched from Spain to Baghdad) once before:


How France Defeated the Islamic Empire—1,300 Years Ago

In 732 CE, at the height of the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome, Islam seemed unstoppable. Boiling out of the Arabian desert just a century before, the Muslim armies conquered North Africa, Spain, the Caucasus and the Middle East with astonishing speed in what must have seemed like a medieval blitzkrieg. The tough, bold and highly motivated desert warriors plundered the decaying corpses of the ancient empires: the Roman, the Byzantine and the Sassanid (Persian). And as the victorious armies of the Umayyad Caliphate surged out of the Iberian peninsula into southern and then central France, they must have savored the prospect of adding the Christian lands of western Europe to their domains. If they accomplished that, the Islamic empire might have become the superpower of its day, the medieval equivalent in military and economic power of the modern United States.

But they had not reckoned with the Franks, a Germanic-speaking people who took advantage of the decaying Roman Empire to settle in France and Belgium (and as you can guess, from whom the name "France" derives). It was the Franks who stopped the Islamic empire's advance at the Battle of Tours, a city in the middle of modern-day France.
http://nationalinterest.org/fe...1300-years-ago-14522