Colorado has had the same surge of degenerates looking for weed/hiding their illegal sales in with the legal ones.

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Originally posted by Leemur:....I don’t judge people that enjoy recreational weed but I damn sure don’t like smelling it. Guess I’m just a boring old bastard now.

Sidenote. The last time I had the strong smell of weed was during the "final exam" to complete combat medic school. A fellow in my platoon went outside, had a couple of joints, then came in and tried to draw blood from me, got a bit interesting. The staff sgt quickly (maybe not quickly enough) intervened.

I have zero interest in going to vegas. No thanks. And the weed issue does not help. Screw them.

I go to Vegas 2-3 times a year for shooting competitions and to visit friends.
It's been what I consider a filthy shithole for many, many years before weed was legal.
Unless it's for a concert, you won't find me and won't drag me to within miles of the strip.

Now, yes there is the smell of weed in places where you didn't smell it before. NOT Vegas's biggest problem by far.

Riiiiiight, before that debil weed showed up, Las Vegas was a good, clean town, like something straight out of the Bible! Of course it was like one of those places God nuked, but still, straight out of the Bible!

Then The Marihuana showed up, next thing you know there's negro jazz music on every corner! Unwed mothers putting their babies in the oven like a Christmas goose! Dancing!

I’ve been to Vegas 3-4 times over as many years for legitimate business, with good friends.

My tolerance level is now 3 days, 2 nights, tops.

It’s a self proclaimed cesspool that has gone downhill from there.

And personally, I don’t have a problem with it exciting - it’s a free country, do you as you please. I just don’t plan on going back anytime soon.

Re: recreational weed - again, I don’t have a problem with it, but laws need to be enforced - be that high and disorderly, tresspassing, vagrancy, you name it.

Work places me there about 6 - 12 times per year for a week or so each trip.

The aggressive begging has gotten a lot worse (along with the reek of weed) since legalization.

The bums passed out and trash, it's been steadily growing since 2000.

I have had to go to shitty Vegas every year for the last 5 years for conferences and it was a shit hole every time. The first couple of years were before weed was made legal. Still just as shitty back then. There are plenty of places that aren’t shitholes with legalized weed. You’re just letting your personal biases lead you on a false journey.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:...It’s a self proclaimed cesspool that has gone downhill from there....

Are you saying Vegas policies and culture is behind the problems? Next you will say that CA and San Francisco created their own sordid problems.

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
The aggressive begging has gotten a lot worse (along with the reek of weed) since legalization.

It's an acquired smell

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by jhe888:....And Scoutmaster, that comment about confirmation bias goes both ways.

Seems to me attys are paid to have confirmation bias. Accountants and auditors get in trouble if they have confirmation bias.

I agree confirmation bias goes both ways. But how many point out such bias in their opponent while ignoring or denying their own bias? Double standards are quite common in society today.

It would be bad for us to not be aware of our own confirmation bias. We can't see a situation from only our client's point of view. That would destroy our ability to the best job possible for our client, and to give realistic advice to a client about what they should do, and can reasonably expect. We have to be careful of believing our clients too much - they have a tendency to tell us only what they think we SHOULD know. We also have to be careful not to breathe our own fumes and lose our objectivity.

Confirmation bias? If that doesn't sound like perfect PC bullshit...

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Marijuana isn’t the problem. I went to Colorado Springs, visited a dispensary and had an excellent time. The city was beautiful and the people were awesome. If it’s truly the marijuanas fault CO Springs and it’s surrounding areas should be a dump too.

It's sure changed for the worse since I lived there in the mid to late 80’s. Now it’s overrun with panhandlers and there’s hobo camps along the creek running along I-25. Manitou was always a tourist trap but now it smells like hobo piss.

May or may not be correlated to legalization but the rate of decline seems to be accelerating, to me.

Does "hobo piss" smell differently than regular old back alley piss or mens restroom piss ?

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Originally posted by Leemur:The casinos used to keep the areas around their property pleasant to encourage you spending your money there. I saw one drunk act up in front of a casino and he got disappeared in a matter of minutes. I’d also forgotten about the real estate crash hitting Vegas so hard.

Keep in mind, when you visited last, 14-years ago, The Strip was a VeRY different place, it was still in the midst of the building boom. Biggest difference is then, there was competition between the casinos: Mandalay Resort Group was competing with Steve Wynn's Mirage Resorts, Kerkorian's Tracinda and Sheldon Anderson's LV Sands had just opened The Venetian.

Today, MGM Mirage now dominates the properties at the Southern end of the Strip. City Center was built through a series of fits'n starts. Planet Hollywood has been re-branded several times. Wynn sold-off Mirage and built Wynn and Encore Resorts. Fontainebleu the long standing monument to the '09 financial collapse is now called The Drew with Marriot providing the financing. The LinQ has created more open-air venues thus, putting more people on the streets walking around instead of packed inside.

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Originally posted by SBrooks:
Does "hobo piss" smell differently than regular old back alley piss or mens restroom piss ?

Kinda. Hobo piss isn’t confined to back alleys or men’s restrooms. I don’t know about you, but I confine my metropolitan micturition habits to restrooms, not shop doorways and sidewalks, where people have to walk in it. It’s the right thing to do.

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Originally posted by jhe888:...It would be bad for us to not be aware of our own confirmation bias. We can't see a situation from only our client's point of view. That would destroy our ability to the best job possible for our client, and to give realistic advice to a client about what they should do, and can reasonably expect. We have to be careful of believing our clients too much - they have a tendency to tell us only what they think we SHOULD know. We also have to be careful not to breathe our own fumes and lose our objectivity.

With thinking like that, you wouldn't make a very good politician in CA.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Confirmation bias? If that doesn't sound like perfect PC bullshit...

Confirmation bias is the very fertilizer that most PC grows on.

My own ability to enjoy/ignore/participate in the various Vegas activities has changed enough over the years since 2004, that I wouldn't attend even if they were across the street. I suspect it is my own preferences more than those of the Strip, that has changed.

One trip there long ago, out walking around 'CircusCircus' or some such, about 2AM, a strong unusual yet-somehow-familiar odor, prompted a hike around the back of the building. There in the alleyway, was a guy cheerfully washing down his elephant, which seemed enjoying the process.

The oddly organic olfactory sensation seemed to originate from several wheelbarrow-sized piles of 'elephant spoor' randomly about the area.

Back in the downtown SFO area a few days later, the predominate odor there was not too different.

Vegas has a problem you guys aren't thinking about.

Under significant pressure from the feds, California was forced to draw down the population it vastly overcrowded prison system. So they've been disgorging felons onto the street. At the same time the cost of housing in Cali, especially the LA area is skyrocketing. So a lot of these ex-cons are looking for someplace cheaper to go. A good percentage of those are ending up in Vegas. This had been causing a crime spike out there.

I have a strong feeling this is a bigger cause of the problems Vegas may be having than the Pot legalization, because, really no one ever smoked pot in Vegas before.