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Originally posted by 12131:

The President lawyers are not obligated to show you, me, or the public anything. You are not entitled to see anything. You and I are just spectators.

Very true. But eventually they're going to have to show a court something. It's possible they'll have some evidence of some sort of fraud at some point, but currently they're not very confidence inspiring. There's been multiple attorneys in some of these cases saying it's not a fraud case in court while the campaign (and at times these same attorneys) are saying it's fraud on TV and radio. A direct quote from Giuliani on Tuesday before a judge = "This is not a fraud case". And that's after spending a lot of his opening grandstanding about fraud.

Most of the attorneys I know (some conservative, some liberal) don't think that some of the large firms and attorneys that specialize in this sort of thing dropped out due to some cancel culture. They believe that when seeing what they actually had to work with it was they believed there is nothing there. The professional consensus I've been hearing is that while Giuliani may have been a skilled attorney at one time he hasn't been in a court in 30 years and is hopelessly out of his depth. He's been struggling with pretty basic legal terms in court.

So while I agree the presidents attorneys don't need to disclose much if anything to us they do need to put up or shut up in court. And so far they've shut up. They talk a big game about bombshells and SHOCKING news on TV and radio but it's been very different in an actual court so far.

I believe Jenna.

We are all frustrated and hungry for more knowledge. We're in this together.

Sigfreund wrote "there may not be a pony by the tree", and shortly we will know some of the battles to be fought.

but there will be plenty of battles to fight no matter how this falls out.

Not a “Bombshell” simply additional confirmation of what we have already been told.

Video: Young Internet Sleuth Reveals Evidence Showing Over 23K PA Ballots Were Filled Out and Returned Before They Were Ever Mailed To Voters (and MORE)

At this point you either believe mass voter fraud occurred or your guy has been declared President Elect by the media.

At this point you either have faith that justice will prevail, a civil war will break-out, we have arrived to a socialist government, or your utopia has arrive.

I choose to believe mass voter fraud has occurred and justice will prevail.

^^ The whole article was posted here previously.
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...900087674#8900087674

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Originally posted by chellim1:
^^ The whole article was posted here previously.
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...900087674#8900087674

Thanks, chellim1. Let me strike that post. I spotted the article from another link, didn't see that post.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
There is no “bombshell” coming...

Great summation! Thank you for doing this.



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FEC Chairman agrees Trump has ‘legitimate accusations’ of election fraud, says we need to let legal process play out

The head of the FEC has reviewed the affidavits and believes President Trump has legitimate accusations of election fraud that a court cannot dismiss:

JTN – The Trump campaign is bringing “legitimate accusations” to court through affidavits of credible witnesses and other evidence used in its challenges to electoral outcomes in various states, Federal Election Commission Chairman Trey Trainor said. Trainor said his review of evidence, including numerous affidavits claiming voter fraud and a sworn statement by a prominent mathematician flagging up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots, met the first level of legal scrutiny under what’s known as motion to dismiss or “Rule 12(b)(6)” of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which would dismiss less credible claims. Noting the subsequent legal threshold beyond a “motion to dismiss” is the “summary judgment phase,” Trainor said that under this phase, the credibility of witnesses is presumed to be accurate, especially given the caliber of the testimonies Trainor has observed to date. “When considering a motion for summary judgment, a judge will view all evidence in the light most favorable to the movant’s opponent,” explains Cornell University Law School’s Legal Information Institute website. “What I would be concerned with, if I were on the other side of these election contests that are going on around the country, is that if you look at the level of evidence that has been provided by these affidavits — hundreds of affidavits that corroborate events that have happened on the ground — in a summary judgment phase of these cases, you have to take the evidence of the plaintiff as being true,” Trainor told “Just the News AM” television show Friday morning. “The court has to take the evidence of the plaintiff as being true and see whether or not the other side can make a case against it,” added Trainor. “So, the massive amounts of affidavits that we see in these cases show that there was in fact fraud that took place. And the other side really needs to answer these questions.” On Thursday the Trump campaign, led by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, presented what it called its “opening statement” in a press conference. Members of the campaign’s legal team reiterated that it would seek to protect the privacy of many of its sworn witnesses, waiting to sharing their identities with the court, to shield them from potential harassment. With the Trump campaign’s lawsuits in targeted battleground states across the country in various phases of progress through the courts, Trainor said, “At the end of the day, what I would say is that these are legitimate accusations that are going to be tried in court.” “And we need to let this legal process play out,” Trainor added, “so that we come to a valid conclusion to this election that everybody believes to be legitimate.”

More at THIS LINK.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
I also believe Obama is the King Pin with Soros’s and High Tech Companies providing the financing.

I believe Obama is deeply involved, for several reasons, but I don't believe he is the king pin. He isn't nearly smart enough.

He is the front man they needed: charismatic, nice smile and good speaker(when the teleprompter is on), but there is not much depth there. What is there is evil and 100% opportunistic, but without someone to prop him up (from college days and forward), he couldn't manage a convenience store successfully.



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Agreed. obama is another puppet. I'd wager he's somehow involved but hillary's 'foundation' is probably higher up the ladder than him.

Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...yo&feature=emb_title

Nevada Secretary of State Voter Turn out.
Total Ballots Cast = 1,327,394

Silver State Election Results.
Presidential Ballots Cast: 703,486 + 669,890 + 14,783, + 14,079 + 3,138 = 1,405,376

Seems the Secretary of State NV is reporting 77,982 fewer ballots cast than total number of ballots cast for all of the Presidential candidates.

Maybe Nevada should reconcile those numbers.

I like listening to this guy. Take a look.

Y’all keep going back and forth amongst yourselves from “BOMBSHELL coming”, to no it’s a “wet firecracker”.

I’m very seriously thinking of doing to this forum, to what I did with FuckButt, and that is HIT DELETE.

FOR GOD’S SAKE, just SHUT-UP ALREADY and let things play out. Until December 12 and the Electoral College convenes, it’s all so much claptrap noise.

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
FOR GOD’S SAKE, just SHUT-UP ALREADY and let things play out. Until December 12 and the Electoral College convenes, it’s all so much claptrap noise.

Allrighty then...

Just speaking for myself... I have PESD (Post-Election Stress Disorder).
I haven't been able to sleep much since the election. I've been following things pretty closely and I'm glad a place like SIGforum exists where I can share thoughts and updates with fellow patriots.

Don't click it, Bob.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Nevada Secretary of State Voter Turn out.
Total Ballots Cast = 1,327,394

Silver State Election Results.
Presidential Ballots Cast: 703,486 + 669,890 + 14,783, + 14,079 + 3,138 = 1,405,376

Seems the Secretary of State NV is reporting 77,982 fewer ballots cast than total number of ballots cast for all of the Presidential candidates.

Maybe Nevada should reconcile those numbers.

The SOS voter turnout page was last updated 11 days ago. There's no timestamp for the silver state results.

Tony.

Bob, you need to take 2 Fukitols at bedtime. They really help.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
I also believe Obama is the King Pin with Soros’s and High Tech Companies providing the financing.

I believe Obama is deeply involved, for several reasons, but I don't believe he is the king pin. He isn't nearly smart enough.

He is the front man they needed: charismatic, nice smile and good speaker(when the teleprompter is on), but there is not much depth there. What is there is evil and 100% opportunistic, but without someone to prop him up (from college days and forward), he couldn't manage a convenience store successfully.
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Good point.
This makes me think back to Rule Number 1.
What they are doing they accuse you of doing.

Following that logic, it is possible Obama’s strings are being pulled from Russia.



Go ahead, call me a conspiracy theorist.
I am a white male so already been told by mainstream media, I am pond scum.
Not much will hurt my feelings now.

Sad thing is, the enemy has been within our gates for a long time.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

You said Carlson wants Trump's legal team to have the goods. You could have stopped right there.

But I didn't.