My son and I went to the township office to pick up absentee ballots, we plan on dropping them off tomorrow. I asked the clerk if anyone had come in to change their vote. She said yes. Of course she didn't say how many had come in but she indicated several. To paraphrase Peter Struck the last time around, it should be 130,000,000 to 0

Jim

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And, yes, that was the most pathetically sad ad ever.

Oh I don't know bout that.

A very close second would be a Mark Kelly TV ad going on air in Arizona where he features his poor disabled wife on camera.

How despicable can a man be?

Looks like president Trumps website has been hacked. It’s offline.


***edit. Looks like it’s back under control***

Tony.

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Originally posted by benny6:
Looks like president Trumps website has been hacked. It’s offline.

Tony.

Which one? It seems ok on my end.

donaldjtrump.com

I got a news push notification. It was down when I posted, but it’s back now.

It was hacked.

Trump's campaign website is 'seized' by hackers who claim to have evidence that 'proves his criminal involvement with foreign actors to manipulate the 2020 election'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...t.html?ITO=applenews

How do you change a vote? If the ballots don’t have names, how do you find yours? And who is to say these people that want to change their vote really just want to vote twice. For the same candidate?

Another easy way to commit fraud.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
How do you change a vote? If the ballots don’t have names, how do you find yours? And who is to say these people that want to change their vote really just want to vote twice. For the same candidate?

Another easy way to commit fraud.

Plus you reduce the other guys vote total by 1. So it's like voting three times.

Surely this is only legal for Leftists, illegal aliens, and dead people.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
If the ballots don’t have names, how do you find yours?

Assuming anyone wants an answer, it would be easy enough in Colorado:

As described above, ballots here are sealed in an envelope bearing the voter’s name and signature. When the time comes to count the votes, the envelope is opened and the ballot and its “security sleeve” that covers the ballot are removed. At some point the sleeve and ballot are separated and therefore there is no connection between the outer envelope with the name and the ballot. And although I don’t know for certain, I assume that the outer envelopes are kept to cross check against the machine votes to ensure someone didn’t vote twice.

To change one’s vote before the envelopes are opened and the ballots are removed, it would simply be a matter of finding the one with the voter’s name and give it back to the voter for whatever changes he wanted to make and then resubmit it.

Assuming the process is like I describe, there wouldn’t be anything difficult about any of it.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
If the ballots don’t have names, how do you find yours?

Assuming anyone wants an answer, it would be easy enough in Colorado:

As described above, ballots here are sealed in an envelope bearing the voter’s name and signature. When the time comes to count the votes, the envelope is opened and the ballot and its “security sleeve” that covers the ballot are removed. At some point the sleeve and ballot are separated and therefore there is no connection between the outer envelope with the name and the ballot. And although I don’t know for certain, I assume that the outer envelopes are kept to cross check against the machine votes to ensure someone didn’t vote twice.

To change one’s vote before the envelopes are opened and the ballots are removed, it would simply be a matter of finding the one with the voter’s name and give it back to the voter for whatever changes he wanted to make and then resubmit it.

Assuming the process is like I describe, there wouldn’t be anything difficult about any of it.

Is that true for in-person voting at the Polls? I could see it working (clumsily) for mail-in voting, but does it really pertain to in-person voting? Here in Texas there would be no way to connect voters with their ballots.

flashguy

So... is this allowed anywhere?

What a logistical nightmare.

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Is that true for in-person voting at the Polls? I could see it working (clumsily) for mail-in voting, but does it really pertain to in-person voting?

In-person voting is by a machine and there is supposed to be* no linkage of a particular vote sequence to a named individual. I therefore don’t see how such a vote could be changed. I haven’t heard that Colorado permits changing an early paper vote, but if it were permitted it could be justified on the theory that it’s not a vote until it’s opened and counted on election day. That would not be true, I believe, of an early machine vote.

* I have my doubts about how truly secret voting by machine is based on the procedures used here if someone in the right place really wanted to know, but it’s not something I know for certain, nor do I fret about it.
The biggest vulnerability in our system as I see it is that someone could look at my early paper ballot and because they knew how I was likely to vote toss it before it was even opened. But then that would be true of the paper ballots themselves. If they were not controlled properly, it would be easy enough for certain ballots to be destroyed rather than counted. There is, however, nothing new about that possibility.

Colorado has 100% mail-in/drop-off balloting; no machine in-person voting.

And President Trump is actively encouraging people to change their votes, so I would think he knows what he's talking about. . .

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
Colorado has 100% mail-in/drop-off balloting; no machine in-person voting.

Ah. A change from previous elections that I had not noticed. Thanks.

Yes it's legal in some states, NC I think they said doesn't allow it. I'd be there will be lawsuits aplenty.

This is why early ballots and mail in ballots are problematic, not only could your ballot be lost, stolen, set on fire, dumped by a USPS employee, but you might realize something revolutionary shortly before the day to vote.

ANyway, if any of you voted for Buyden and want to change your ballot check your state law, you may be able to do so. Not much time left!

Just go to Google and type in Can I change my vote , it will send you to a page where you can select your state and see if it's possible and how to do it..

I'll tell you how it works in Michigan. Absentee ballots are kept in a vault until election day. We are personally taking our ballots in. They will be kept in the vault in a sealed envelope until election day. My name is on the envelope. If I want to make a change they can pull my envelope out of the vault. I don't know if early voting is able to change. Like I said, the clerk said there have been numerus people changing, I doubt they are changing to Biden.

Jim

17 minute version of the Tucker Carlson interview w Tony Bobulinski






Sean Davis today:

On his show tonight, Tucker Carlson will follow up on last night’s bombshell interview with even more audio recordings of calls between Tony Bobulinski and Biden family insiders.

Seems like a nice spot to quote Joey Stalin.

“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”

In PA I'm guessing they can see whether your voter ID # has had a vote registered.

I keep getting texts from the Trump campaign saying I haven't voted yet (obviously, because I'm not voting by mail, but on election day), so if they know I haven't voted, there must be some accessible tally of votes received that can still be linked to an individual voter.

A few observations.

1. The fact that people are "searching google" on if/how to change votes, is going to affect a lot of people that have not voted. Some of those people will vote Trump or not vote at all. Small percentages matter.

2. A few people who are able to change their vote in states that allow it, (and their communicating that/reports of that) will also add to the thought process of those mentioned in the first point.

3. When people begin a trend, it typically looks like a any other "viral" thing. A lot of "buzz", quite a few people who are impulsive and easily impressed reacting from emotion or the desire to "do something", and that is a pretty big segment of those on the left.

4. A lot of "traditional" Democrats (or any voter) who waits until election day are the type of people who also have jobs, pay taxes, etc., in other words, are "regular" folks who would be troubled by the facts of that are revealed by Bobulinski data.

5. The timing of this is also important to the effect it can/will have on voting, as people tend to be only engaged in anything for a few days,, before the "Novocain" wears off.

6. And all of this is very good should any contention over the election be played by the left, their credibility of "fair dealings" is shot to shit, and should a flood of people demanding that all of this be investigated as direct bearing of motive, behavior and actions of the left, and especially Biden, and pointing to the leftest malfeasance, conniving, and disgusting tactics over the last two confirmations of SCOTUS justices, the entire impeachment crap, the unrelenting attacks on Trump for the past 4 years, would make the "mostly peaceful protests" look like Kindergartners during "mat nap". And I did not even include all the "Wuhu it's not Flu flu" crap and the Democratic.gov's walking all over We the People...'s rights with shit covered shoes.

Time for the "silent majority" to warm up their unused vocal cords and be ready to make "one voice" heard.