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Members of Congress are automatically granted security clearances. True fact.


Many of us used to fill out the forms (398?) every five years, apparently not so for Senators and Congressmen.

https://www.govexec.com/manage...y-clearances/130266/

Politicians and Security Clearances

Lawmakers (and aspiring presidents) don’t go through the same background investigation process required of everyone else.

by Linda Kyzer
JULY 27, 2016

Think your vote doesn’t matter? In addition to exercising your civic responsibility, you’re also carrying out a security responsibility, as well.

Members of Congress don’t go through the same background investigation process as you or me. The process of election is considered a public seal of access. When you elect a candidate into office – be it Congress or the Presidency – you in some sense grant them access to the classified information required for the position.

According to the CIA’s Center for the Study of Intelligence: “There are no written rules, agreed to by both branches, governing what intelligence will be shared with the Hill or how it will be handled. The current system is entirely the product of experience, shaped by the needs and concerns of both branches over the last 20 years.”

What that means is that if a member of Congress or individual appointed to a government office needs access to classified information, they’re likely to get it.

What About Congressional Staff?

House and Senate staff members do undergo a security clearance background investigation process, as well as signing a non-disclosure agreement. Clearances are only granted to staff requiring access to classified information.

Both the Senate and House have security offices responsible for overseeing classified information and access. The Office of Senate Security was established in 1987, the Office of House Security was established in 2005. The Senate notably has a security manual governing the procedures and requirements of classified information. It applies to all Senate staff – but not to the Senators themselves.

A Security Double Standard?

If all of this strikes you as exceedingly unfair, you’re not alone. Former Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., introduced legislation in 2008 that would have required all members of the House to obtain a security clearance and go through the same background investigation process as other government employees.

The bill did not pass, and critics argued it would compromise the independence of the legislature. Other arguments that requiring a formal background investigation process would result in two classes – those with clearances and those without – and also that it would slow down the legislative process.
 
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and also that it would slow down the legislative process.

As if slowing down the legislative process would be a bad thing.

The one tiny sliver of light in the grey cloud that is the impeachment hoax is that while those jackals are busy with their failed coup they are not producing more lousy laws.
 
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The one tiny sliver of light in the grey cloud that is the impeachment hoax is that while those jackals are busy with their failed coup they are not producing more lousy laws.


Exactly, as a general rule the less they do the better off the country is!


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Rand Paul Discusses Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella During Floor Speech: “Were they plotting in the halls of congress to bring down this president?”...

Earlier today Senator Rand Paul delivered his remarks on impeachment from the Senate floor. During his remarks Senator Paul highlighted the real and present danger of allowing agents within government to plot against a sitting president.

Senator Paul asks the same question he presented to Chief Justice John Roberts as the presiding officer of the Senate trial. A question Roberts refused to ask:

“Are you aware that House intelligence committee staffer Shawn Misko had a close relationship with Eric Ciaramella while at the National Security Council together; and are you aware -and how do you respond to- reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal house impeachment proceedings?“



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great job by Rand Paul. He can be a PIA. but once in a while he nails it. He nailed it here.
 
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“Trump could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election,” he said. “Or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago personally and let Jared Kushner run the country, delegating to him the decision whether to go to war.” - Adam Schiff


This guy is totally fucking un-hinged. He lives in a complete fantasy land, and spins anew, for every occasion, a tale of his own making. Unbelievable. And the local CBS and ABC radio affiliates keep quoting this absolute loon and his made-up talking points like they matter.
 
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What's next? "Trump will sell planet Earth to Mars so he can find Space Force, he must be stopped!!!!"




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“Trump could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election,” he said. “Or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago personally and let Jared Kushner run the country, delegating to him the decision whether to go to war.” - Adam Schiff


This guy is totally fucking un-hinged. He lives in a complete fantasy land, and spins anew, for every occasion, a tale of his own making. Unbelievable. And the local CBS and ABC radio affiliates keep quoting this absolute loon and his made-up talking points like they matter.


The fact that this is being quoted by fake news thinking they are helping could be a really good thing. The statement is so bizarre most people...yes even a lot of dems will find it ridiculous.


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God, I hope so. The idea of people hearing that nonsense and nodding their heads in agreement honestly frightens me.
 
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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...etrayal%20of%20Trump

John Bolton’s PAC Money Dries Up as Top Republican Funders Shun Him Following Betrayal of Trump

Neocon warmonger John Bolton betrayed President Donald Trump last week to promote his soon-to-be-released book, but he is learning that his disloyal and disreputable actions will have severe consequences.

Several of President Trump’s biggest and most influential supporters are on the war path against Bolton, making sure that his political action committee (PAC) and super PAC receives no funding from prominent Republican donors.

“You’re on the president’s side or you’re not. It’s simple,” said Arthur Schwartz, a GOP consultant closely tied to the Trump White House.

The pro-Trump GOP king makers are using their clout to influence their colleagues to deny Bolton the cash he needs to run his operations. The mustache-laden turncoat is getting frozen out from the lucrative Republican donor class that has sustained him for decades.

Bolton’s super PAC and his PAC are currently supporting five Republican lawmakers, including Sens. Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Cory Gardner of Colorado and Thom Tillis of North Carolina as well as Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois and Lee Zeldin of New York. These legislators may want to distance themselves from Bolton’s operation if they wish to stay in the president’s good graces.

“He’s dead to everyone,” an aide to a Trump super donor told CNBC, adding that it is a “safe assumption” that Bolton’s operation will not last much longer.

The president’s son has essentially confirmed what the donors are saying. Bolton has made his bed, and he will now have to sleep in it.

“Bolton is going to wake up Thursday, come to the sad realization that he’s running out of usefulness to his newfound Democrat/media ‘friends’ and will be facing a very lonely end to his lackluster (could never get Senate confirmation) career,” Donald Trump Jr. wrote in a comment to CNBC.

President Trump:

….many more mistakes of judgement, gets fired because frankly, if I listened to him, we would be in World War Six by now, and goes out and IMMEDIATELY writes a nasty & untrue book. All Classified National Security. Who would do this?
 
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House Impeachment Manager and House Oversight Chairman Adam Schiff warned Monday that President Donald Trump might give Alaska to the Russians if he is not impeached.


“Trump could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election,” he said. “Or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago personally and let Jared Kushner run the country, delegating to him the decision whether to go to war.”



There is something seriously wrong with that smirking, bug-eyed fool. Eek

Can none of these Democrats HEAR THEMSELVES right now and see that they are looking and sounding like total lunatics? Damn.
To answer your question: No, I think many, if onot most, of them actually believe what they are spouting--their view of the World and the USA is radically different from reality as we see it. I think a lot of them honestly think that all those dire things they posit could, and would, happen. They are that deluded and divorced from real life.

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Collins and Murkowski to acquit President Trump
 
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Oooh, the pressure's on Shitt Romney.
 
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“Trump could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election,” he said. “Or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago personally and let Jared Kushner run the country, delegating to him the decision whether to go to war.” - Adam Schiff


This guy is totally fucking un-hinged. He lives in a complete fantasy land, and spins anew, for every occasion, a tale of his own making. Unbelievable. And the local CBS and ABC radio affiliates keep quoting this absolute loon and his made-up talking points like they matter.
Well, a Democrat President (Jimmy Carter) did give away the Panama Canal. Another one might well consider giving away Alaska or Hawaii, and the Dems would thereby project that possibility onto a Republican President.

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how disappointing

AOC:

After much deliberation, I have decided that I will not use my presence at a state ceremony to normalize Trump’s lawless conduct & subversion of the Constitution.

None of this is normal, and I will not legitimize it.

Consequently, I will not be attending the State of the Union.

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Mark Dice reply:

You won't be missed.


https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1224794340272242689
 
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Sen. McConnell's 16:27 video reviewing the pending impeachment vote and related procedures to this point:

https://videos.whatfinger.com/...uit-president-trump/

Most excellent.


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The annual SoU address will take place at 9:10pm ET tonight and will be carried live on all networks.
 
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AOC:

After much deliberation, I have decided that I will not use my presence at a state ceremony to normalize Trump’s lawless conduct & subversion of the Constitution.

None of this is normal, and I will not legitimize it.

Consequently, I will not be attending the State of the Union.

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But it's her job to attend. That's what she gets paid to do.


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It this case, it is the economy, stupid. Smile



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Trumps Victory Speech or State of the Union. The dems are pathetic.

Winning!


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