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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
I lost it when Trump threw the glass of water off the stage.

Me too. Absolute rock star move.

Yeah, that's destined to become a classic. It's a two-parter, no less. I love how he says "They gave me another disease" and then demonstrates that he can drink a glass of water with one hand (crowd goes wild).

Norm MacDonald's not the only one who can tell a 12 minute joke.

Brad Parscale, Trump 2020 campaign manager, says the ticket hacking was not effective

Parscale:

“Leftists and online trolls doing a victory lap, thinking they somehow impacted rally attendance, don’t know what they’re talking about or how our rallies work.

Reporters who wrote gleefully about TikTok and K-Pop fans - without contacting the campaign for comment - behaved unprofessionally and were willing dupes to the charade. Registering for a rally means you’ve RSVPed with a cell phone number and we constantly weed out bogus numbers, as we did with tens of thousands at the Tulsa rally, in calculating our possible attendee pool.

These phony ticket requests never factor into our thinking. What makes this lame attempt at hacking our events even more foolish is the fact that every rally is general admission - entry is on a first-come-first-served basis and prior registration is not required.

The fact is that a week’s worth of the fake news media warning people away from the rally because of COVID and protestors, coupled with recent images of American cities on fire, had a real impact on people bringing their families and children to the rally.

MSNBC was among outlets reporting that protesters even blocked entrances to the rally at times. For the media to now celebrate the fear that they helped create is disgusting, but typical. And it makes us wonder why we bother credentialing media for events when they don’t do their full jobs as professionals.”

So the lower attendance was a result of lower support for Trump or fear of the Covid? If Parscale is so sure the hackers didn't affect attendance, why was the campaign reporting upwards of one million ticket requests? Where did those come from and what made so many of them stay home?

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Read the last couple of pages.

Actually, Rick Lee gets it and I wonder the same thing.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
If Parscale is so sure the hackers didn't affect attendance, why was the campaign reporting upwards of one million ticket requests?

Why would one necessarily have anything to do with the other? And these aren't hackers. They're just punks requesting tickets like anyone else could.

And why is this such a huge mystery to some? Many people likely requested tickets because, why not? If they change their minds, they just stay home and safe and watch the rally on tv. With the overhyped chinese virus, anti-American and anti-Trump agitators everywhere, the pain in the ass issues with traveling nowadays, why would anyone be surprised by a lower than hopeful turnout?

Look at the number of people who watched the rally at home. Over 4 million unique sites streaming from home and that doesn't even include the number of people like myself who watched it on FNC or OANN, etc. Point being, it was without a doubt not a result of lower support for Trump. Ridiculous.

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And why is this such a huge mystery to some?

I don't even care, personally. I feel like everyone wants to know every little detail of everything, so that they can turn around and forget it 5 minutes later.

It's probably a symptom of the social media / soundbite / trivia time we live in. People are addicted to, and thrive on, bits of information that have no meaningful impact on anything, and generally mean nothing to their own life. They want the data, then they forget the data.

My wife goes through the "endless scroll" on Facebook, just like I do on Twitter, and we're both finding new and better ways of recognizing when we're looking for and seeking information and data that means nothing.

POTUS had the rally. Tons of people showed up. There's so much outlying data that is completely meaningless, that people are conditioned to hone in on and then forget in a matter of hours.

My experience anyway.

I have a hard time believing hundreds of thousands requested tickets and then just decided not to go. A friend of mine went to the last one in Phoenix and he had it on his calendar like it was his wife's due date. And his life went on hold for two days prior to make sure nothing could prevent his going.

"Hackers" is an ungainly term. I don't mean software was hacked to cause bogus requests. But surely there must be some way to weed out the bogus requests, even if they come from legit cell phone numbers. Just seems to me that it's hard to explain the huge gap between predicted and actual attendance. This event was hyped like no other. Why would the campaign want to set expectations unrealistically high? There's no upside to it. It's always better to underpromise and overdeliver.

Eric Trump tweet: (yesterday)


Today’s date is June 21st and it has been 80 days since #JoeBiden, a man who wants to be President, has held a press conference...

Many of the people who requested multiple tickets never intended to go. That's the point. They thought by reserving tickets that real supporters would be deprived of tickets and seats. It was a stupid prank, supported by the likes of aoc. The pranksters have bragged about it. The foolish media has covered it.

Then there's the annoying media hype about catching you know what.

Read this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...victory-lap-n1231675

There is some benefit to reading the previous posts. There's some on page 121.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
"Hackers" is an ungainly term.

Never mind not even remotely accurate.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
But surely there must be some way to weed out the bogus requests, even if they come from legit cell phone numbers.

Charge for 'em. Then the id10ts are faced with a zero sum game: They can still do it, but they'll contribute to Trump's reelection campaign if they do

$5/ticket should do the trick. No true Trump supporter will balk at $5/ticket.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Trump is one of the best story tellers I’ve ever heard. That was more like a comedy special!

I lost it when Trump threw the glass of water off the stage.

I wasn’t sure I’d watch a full 12 min clip. Glad I did. Honestly, hilarious! Even someone with the most extreme case of T.D.S. would enjoy that.


Trump’s timing alone will be Biden’s downfall in the debates.

Nah, it was a "sparse" viewing audience.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I have a hard time believing hundreds of thousands requested tickets and then just decided not to go.

I don't. Not even a little bit. Humans acting like humans.

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A friend of mine went to the last one in Phoenix and he had it on his calendar like it was his wife's due date. And his life went on hold for two days prior to make sure nothing could prevent his going.

The reality then is about lightyears away from the reality now. That's just a fact. I know hardcore Trump supporters who say there is no way they would go to a rally at this time.

I watched the whole rally on Fox News cable channel. When I went to their web site I was astounded to see that the comments were monopolized by Leftist loons.

flashguy

That should tell you something about how scared they are.

Watched it on OAN, nice that the camera stayed on Trump, there was no crowd viewing, as to the attendance, lots of reports of anti trumpers doing bad things outside the area were given, what it was haven't read about.

Imagine with COVID and the threats that many stayed away, plus you can watch him on TV, in 2016 you had to go to the event to see him because the networks wouldn't show the whole event, now you don't have to go, and perhaps that plays into attendance since you no longer have to be on sight...

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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$5/ticket should do the trick. No true Trump supporter will balk at $5/ticket.

You might be on to something there.