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So this idiot is going to bribe the Yellow Vests with other people's money.

Typical democrat, economically illiterate and a thief.




 
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So this idiot is going to bribe the Yellow Vests with other people's money.

Typical democrat, economically illiterate and a thief.

Typical socialist, more like. Staying away from the elites money to do it no less, from the sound of things.

What is that saying about other people’s money, and eventually running out of it? I sincerely hope they’re not actually buying what he is selling.




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Yep, raising the minimum wage is going to really help french unemployment Roll Eyes /S




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That will be the ticket... Let's cure the evils of socialist nonsense with MORE socialist nonsense. That ought to learn 'em...

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French Riots Really Aren't About Global Warming — They're About Tax Heavy Socialism

12/11/2018

Socialism: After weeks of spreading riots and demonstrations in Paris, socialist French President Emmanuel Macron has had an epiphany or sorts. Not only is he not going to put a new global warming tax on fuel, he's going to let financially-strapped French families keep more of their money from the taxman. At least this year.

Noisy demonstrations all but closed Paris last weekend as thousands again took to the streets to protest Macron's foolish tax on fuel. He thought he could ram it through, despite growing ground-level opposition. He was wrong.

Even after calling out the military, he couldn't quell the revolt. So on Monday night, in a national address, he essentially capitulated. Oh sure, he talked tough, pledging "no mercy" towards the Gilets Jaunes, the "yellow vest" protesters in the streets.

But his tone and the substance of his speech were anything but tough. Among other things, Macron "asked his government to increase wages by 100 euros per month beginning in January as part of a series of new measures to be released in detail on Tuesday," according to a piece on the financial web site Zerohedge.

"He also announced that overtime hours won't be subject to payroll tax, and that his administration will scrap a tax hike on poor and low-income retirees," the piece continued. "Furthermore, Macron asked companies to pay end-of-year bonuses which won't be taxed, and will suspend a CSG levy on pensions below 2,000 euros per month."

Macron's Surrender

"No mercy"? Sounds like total surrender for someone who, just days earlier, arrested 1, 939 people across the country, more than a thousand of those in Paris.

The truth is, Macron has lost control both of the people and of the narrative. His 18% approval rating is one of the lowest in modern French history. He now finds his entire leftist, dirigiste agenda under assault. Demonstrators and their supporters are now talking about the unthinkable — Frexit, or a French exit from the soft socialism of the EU and all its onerous tax and regulatory burdens.

Meanwhile, the French tax revolt is spreading. People in other countries are also fed up with high taxes and arrogant governments staffed by rich, autocratic bureaucrats.

ABC News reported: "Belgian police fired tear gas and water cannons at yellow-vested protesters calling for the resignation of Prime Minister Charles Michel after they tried to breach a riot barricade, as the movement that started in France made its mark Saturday in Belgium and the Netherlands."
'Not Going Well In Dutch Society'

Why are they going into the streets? "Our children are hard-working people but they have to pay taxes everywhere. You can't get housing anymore. It is not going well in Dutch society," Ieneke Lambermont, 67, said. "The social welfare net we grew up with is gone," she said.

"The government is not there for the people. It is there to protect its own interests," she added.

An estimated 50,000 people also turned out for a demonstration in Rome. But that demonstration was in support of the new government, which has stood in opposition to the EU on a number of issues, including Italy's budget, global warming and migration policy.

Canada's Carbon Tax Row

Even Canada is now undergoing a divisive debate over a proposed carbon tax. "Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's plan to dramatically increase taxes on carbon emissions to combat climate change is dividing the country, pitting six of the provinces against Ottawa and setting the stage for a bitter and partisan federal election next year," wrote the Washington Examiner.

So there you have it. In Europe and North America, average citizens are increasingly actively opposing the imposition of new taxes. That's particularly true of taxes involved in easing the effects of future forecasted global warming. As our recent IBD/TIPP Poll showed, just 17% of Americans would rank global warming as the No. 1 or No. 2 problem to be addressed next year by the new Congress.

So why have Democrats made a vague "Green New Deal" one of the centerpieces of their agenda for next year's Congress?

So far, Democrats have been wary about talking about specific taxes, though many get excited at the mention of a new "carbon tax" promising a flood of new tax money to spend. Perhaps they see what's going on overseas.
New Green Deal = Green Socialism

But a glowing description in the Atlantic Magazine gives you an idea: "(The Democrats' New Green Deal) promises to give every American a job in that new economy: installing solar panels, retrofitting coastal infrastructure, manufacturing electric vehicles. In the 1960s, the U.S. pointed the full power of its military-technological industry at going to the moon."

In short, the "Green New Deal" is basically just soup-to-nuts green socialism. That's it. It was President Eisenhower who, in the 1950s, warned of a "military-industrial" complex. Today, leftists long for a "military-technological" complex that will contain all the worst elements of both fascism and socialism.
It's Not About Warming

Or as former California politician and current Texas Public Policy Foundation Vice President Chuck Devore said, "I think that in America though with this Green New Deal you're going to see indirect taxation. In other words more subsidies, more taxes, more mandates and regulations."

In short, less freedom, higher taxes, more rules, bigger government. All to reduce an entirely hypothetical warming of the global atmosphere by at most a couple of tenths of a degree. It's not really a debate about global warming at all, but about socialism.

Bigger government and less freedom, versus smaller government and more freedom.

It's yet another step in the Democratic Party's radicalization. As we've noted many times before, Americans won't like green socialism anymore than the regular kinds. Don't be shamed into believing its false claims. It's a system that has never worked anywhere. And it certainly won't work here.

https://www.investors.com/poli...l-warming-socialism/



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The Riots In France Aren’t Just About Gas Taxes, But About The West’s Decline

The yellow jacket protests are just a small symptom of a much larger problem––the decline and fall of once-magnificent France.

By Auguste Meyrat

This past week, Parisians in yellow safety vests took to the streets to riot against French leadership. They have defaced the Arc de Triomphe, thrown rocks at policemen and soldiers, and lit fires all over the city. Macron literally had egg on his face and continues to suffer abysmal approval ratings, while the current protests enjoy high approval ratings in the country, despite the destruction.

Most commentary (which happened all over France, not just Paris) has focused on the fuel tax increase as the main reason for the protests, as though the French have never paid exorbitant taxes before. It has also characterized the yellow vest protests as a recent event, but they had been going on for weeks before they became violent these past few days.

Macron and the French media have unsurprisingly tried to pin the protests and riots on Marine Le Pen’s racist minions without evidence, while residents in France have claimed that the protesters are mostly middle-aged Frenchmen with no political affiliation.
Losing the Body and Soul of France

While protests and car-burnings are actually common in France, what’s happening now is much worse than usual and will not go away anytime soon. What observers should know is that this is not about fuel prices or Macron’s incompetence; this is about the fall of the West.

People have long complained of France losing its soul by becoming a secularized, progressive, socialist welfare state shortly after two miserable losses in the two world wars. After being known for its fine arts, beautiful landscapes, rich Catholic tradition, genius philosophers and scientists, and famous monuments, people now see France as a stagnant irrelevant pool of decadence (this descent is captured well in Thomas Merton’s description of the country in Seven Storey Mountain).

It is the land of nasty writers like Celine and Michel Houellebecq, nasty singers like Serge Gainsbourg, and nasty architecture like the Musee de Pompidou. All the same, most Frenchmen didn’t seem to mind this decline as long as they could have shorter workweeks and socialized health care.

As a result of losing its soul, France has also been losing its body—its people, communities, business, and infrastructure. Like the rest of the developed world, the French are having fewer children and compensate for the population loss by taking in more immigrants. Consequently, the Parisian slums keep expanding while French villages gradually disappear.

The lucky few French workers who actually have a job labor under heavier tax burdens and can afford little. Middle-class families are lucky if they own a small apartment, an economy car, and a set of cheap clothes from China. The luxury products sold on the Champs-Elysees and elsewhere are mainly for the rich.

The most striking sign of decline in France for people visiting, however, is the disintegrating infrastructure. The government will go to great lengths to keep its landmarks safe and relatively clean, but it cannot hide the graffiti that mars everything, from train cars to buildings. It also cannot extinguish the stench of urine, feces, and body odor from the homeless, permeating every public space. Even if the roads are kept up in most places (thanks to high fuel prices, high tolls, and light, fuel-efficient cars), the subways and trains are decades old and decrepit.

To make matters worse, French cities feature ghettos of unassimilated immigrants who pose an ever-increasing drag on the economy and culture. They do not speak French; they do not work; some of them follow Muslim Sharia law; and they make up much of the country’s poverty, crime, and terrorism (“no-go zones”). They also collect handsome taxpayer benefits. For this reason, the protesters are also calling for France to vote against the UN migration pact, an agreement that would undermine participating countries’ efforts to regulate migration.
The Elites Fail to Respond to a Dying France

Those in charge of France, a very obvious class of elites, have responded by covering their eyes and ears, holding their noses, and spewing out platitudes about diversity and the global community. Naturally, the media and academy support them and allow them to rule over the French very much like the aristocracy before the French Revolution. Shilling for the European Union, climate change, and birth control while railing against nationalism and Trump, childless yet youthful Emmanuel Macron is the perfect symbol of this group.

For those wondering who the other choices for president were, there was Francois Fillon, a center-right candidate accused of hiring and paying family members for work they didn’t do, and Marine Le Pen, politician who was forced to take a psychiatric examination for tweeting images of ISIS murders. Like his predecessor, Francois “Mr. Normal” Holland, Macron just had to stay boring and maintain the status quo to win the presidency.

It is this whole miserable state of affairs that the French are protesting. France, and most other countries in the Western world, are on an unsustainable course. Taxes, the political establishment, ghost towns in “La France profonde,” nationalism, globalism, and the rest of it are all symptoms of the same underlying malaise.

The riots and protests are also symptoms. Although perhaps cathartic, they will not solve anything. People who resort to violence have rejected the merits of reasoned debate and fair elections. The French who used to be so proud of their republic are now opting for mob rule.

As history can attest—most notably the French Revolution—mob rule doesn’t end well. If it succeeds in toppling a government, it almost always results in an autocracy, like that of Napoleon. If it doesn’t succeed, it leads to a corrupt oligarchy or elite that doubles down on anti-democratic practices, like what’s happening in EU countries today.

Angry Masses, Disconnected Elites, and No True Leaders

For real reform, the people need leadership—intellectual leaders, political leaders, and economic leaders. In other words—and populists will undoubtedly cringe at this—they need their own elite. Unlike their American cousins across the pond, French conservatives do not have an elite. They have angry masses of people who have rejected the status quo, but have not seriously embraced a clear path forward.

Hating the EU, the UN, mass migration, Macron, and high taxes will not lead to constructive reform. Only if this energy is channeled into articulating a vision for transcendent, cohesive ideals such as limited government, free speech, free market capitalism, and a return to orthodox Christianity will the French have any hope of returning to their former glory.

As for the rest of the world, they should take heed at what is unfolding in the streets of Paris. In many ways, France is simply further along in the progressive experiment than other countries in the West. English Prime Minister Theresa May’s cowardice in carrying out Brexit will likely spark similar kinds of protests, and Angela Merkel is now paying immigrants to leave Germany in order to keep the peace in her country.

The United States is different only in that it is a few decades behind. Conservatives here do have an elite (although a much smaller, less influential one than liberals), which is divided between those who support Trump and those who don’t (although the latter is quickly disappearing). Nevertheless, many conservatives fear that Trump may be the last Republican president before the inevitable decline brought on by liberals’ stranglehold on the culture. Once that decline comes, Americans will take to the streets and voice their grievances like the French people are doing now.

So let the events in Europe be a warning to Americans here: progressive policies will slowly but surely work their ruin on any society, and it’s incumbent on conservatives today to counteract this by supporting their own elite and exercising the civic duties responsibly (i.e. voting for good candidates, challenging injustice, and defending essential freedoms). Not only should this be done for posterity, but for the sake of protesters around the world who are fighting for the same things.

Auguste Meyrat is an English teacher in the Dallas area. He holds an MA in humanities and an MEd in educational leadership. He is the senior editor of The Everyman and has written essays for The Federalist, The American Conservative, and The Imaginative Conservative, as well as the Dallas Institute of Humanities and Culture.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/...taxes-wests-decline/



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France 'terror' shooting leaves 4 dead, multiple injured with gunman on the run: officials

https://www.foxnews.com/world/...on-the-run-officials

A shooting in Strasbourg, France, on Tuesday killed four people, wounded several others and is being treated as an act of "terror," police and government officials said, adding that the gunman is on the run.

The suspect opened fire in downtown Strasbourg on Orfevre Street around 8 p.m. local time, government authorities Préfet de la région Grand-Est et du Bas-Rhin revealed on Twitter.

The gunman is known to police and has a criminal record, Interior Minister Christophe Castaner told reporters.

The suspect was shot and wounded before fleeing the scene, police officials told The Associated Press. Authorities attempted to arrest the individual ahead of the shooting, a police official said, but it wasn't immediately clear why.


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I find it odd that the police are familiar enough with the shooter to mention a criminal record, but no information about him is available at any news source. As he is still at large, his picture and name should be on every single venue.




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Nevertheless, many conservatives fear that Trump may be the last Republican president before the inevitable decline brought on by liberals’ stranglehold on the culture. Once that decline comes, Americans will take to the streets and voice their grievances like the French people are doing now.


Yes, at least some of us do have that fear.
What I doubt, though, is that there will be any taking to the streets by anyone other than leftists who believe that the only problem with the decline and why it’s not effective in giving them everything they want is that it’s not fast enough or deep enough.




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An Antifa twatwaffle took for granted that the gilet jaunes would agree with throwing bricks at the Gendarmerie.



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The yellow vest guys held the rock thrower for police, way to go!

Sorry, despite 2340's note it took me a while to figure it out.
 
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I love the cops giving the little turd a solid clout while his arms were pinioned haha.




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Is he not a ridiculous, little man or what?

Macron raises minimum wage to appease Yellow Vest protesters

'Macron showed a much more humble tone'
He said people on the minimum wage would see their salaries increase by 100 euros a month from 2019 without extra costs to employers.

That's a nice trick....socialist math FTW! Wink
 
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The yellow vest guys held the rock thrower for police, way to go!

Sorry, despite 2340's note it took me a while to figure it out.

He was smart enough to figure out that this black clad asshole was going to highjack their protest.
 
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Far fewer arrests this weekend, but still a lot of unhappy protesters.

Lots of pics at link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...ters-plan-chaos.html

Fighting erupted in central Paris today as thousands of anti-government protesters took to the streets of France for the fifth Saturday in a row.

Tear gas and baton charges were used by riot police around the capital's famous Opera district on a so-called 'Act V' Day of Rage, and by midday more than 60 protesters were in custody.

But by the evening there were close to 170 arrests in central Paris as mounted police, water cannons, and 14 armoured vehicles capable of spreading high-intensity gas meanwhile gathered in around the city's landmarks.

There had been 168 arrests by 6pm, far down on the roughly 1,000 protesters taken into custody following last Saturday's demonstrations in Paris.

Around 69,000 security forces were mobilised across France, down from 89,000 last Saturday when 2,000 people were detained at various demonstration around the country.

 
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Eiffel Tower is shrouded by smoke as Paris burns into the night: Iconic landmark shines through choking black pall after Yellow Vest protesters set cars ablaze for the seventh weekend as they call on Macron to go
Protesters set cars alight and left them to burn in the streets of the Capital city as demonstrations resumed
Earlier today yellow vest demonstrators clashed with riot police who fired tear gas at the crowds in Paris
Tear gas also fired in Nantes, western France, and protests were expected in Lyon, Bordeaux and Toulouse
Small groups took to streets in Paris and elsewhere in France calling for resignation of President Macron
Despite it being the seventh weekend of protests, momentum for the movement appears to be waning
By CHRIS DYER FOR MAILONLINE and AP and AFP
PUBLISHED: 10:13 EST, 29 December 2018 | UPDATED: 20:17 EST, 29 December 2018




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Paris Climate Discord: France sued for nixing carbon tax in response to Yellow Vest protests

Meanwhile, Yellow Vest protests spread as green-justice advocates insist the demonstrators really want more taxes and regulations.

Before the Christmas break, Legal Insurrection readers may recall that fuel tax rises that led to weeks of citizen protests in France were postponed for six months.

Now, several green justice organizations are suing France in the name of “climate change”.

The upcoming lawsuit says the country has failed to adequately address climate change. Four French organizations—Greenpeace France, Oxfam France, Fondation pour la Nature et l’Homme and Notre Affaire à Tous—took the first step toward a lawsuit by sending a letter of formal notice to Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and 12 members of the government. The letter describes climate impacts that France is already experiencing and explains how the government’s failure to take action endangers the welfare of French citizens. The request further urges the government to adopt specific climate adaptation and mitigation strategies.

French officials have two months to respond. The groups may then officially file a case in the Administrative Court of Paris. The case will likely take two years to proceed.

Paul Mirengoff, a contributor for Powerline, had this analysis of the suit’s chances of success:

To my knowledge, France has no legal obligation to impose the carbon tax. Nor, in our system of jurisprudence, is there a general cause of action against the government for “not doing enough” to combat a particular problem. Otherwise, I might sue our government for not doing enough to keep criminals off the streets.

Despite the fact that the carbon tax, an important component of the Paris Climate Accord, was a key motivator for the Yellow Vest protests, a green justice warrior insists that the French citizen activists welcome eco-taxation.

“What they [yellow vests] want first and foremost is social justice and financial justice. And there will be no social justice without action for the climate,” In Our Common Interest President Marie Toussaint told reporters. Her group is one of the four non-government organizations seeking to sue France.

“Global warming feeds on inequalities and strengthens them. It strikes the most fragile first. It is destroying our economy and our territories. So, it can be a process that can be done in parallel,” Toussaint said.

Yeah, sure.

What is more likely to succeed is the spread of Yellow Vest protests.

In fact, I get the sense the French not only want to get out of the Paris Climate Accord, but the European Union as well. #Frexit anyone?

https://legalinsurrection.com/...ellow-vest-protests/



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“What they [yellow vests] want first and foremost is social justice and financial justice. And there will be no social justice without action for the climate,” In Our Common Interest President Marie Toussaint told reporters.


You arrogant slut. That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard a French person say...and I'm married to one.


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Wonder if they’re taking the opportunity to burn some of the migrant camps and “no go zones” that have popped up since the Muslims started migrating...



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