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I've been tracking the CDC death totals and charting them daily for a while now. The data is clear, the US is essentially now back to normal weekly death totals. We can come out of quarantine 100%.


The pandemic is history

A curious but fortunate characteristic of virus epidemics is their limited lifespans. No one knows why, but guesses include herd immunity and mutations of the virus.

The following graph from the Centers for Disease Control and the National Center for Health Statistics shows the time profile of the COVID-19 weekly death counts from February onward. (For an interactive version of the graph go here.)



In the U.S., the virus got underway in March. For the week ending March 14 the total number of deaths nationwide was 52. During the following month the number of deaths increased rapidly, peaking in the week ending April 18 at a count of 17,026.

From that time onward, the death count declined rapidly to a weekly number of 3,684 in late June. A second “wave” began in July. The peak of that second wave was 6,794 deaths during the week ending July 25. After that a steeper decline commenced and accelerated.

The peak death count for Americans under age 25 was 28 (for the week ending April 11) and has been under that number since. Only a single death occurred in that age group during the latest reported week, and there were no deaths recorded in the 25-34 age group.

Virus epidemics behave differently than virtually all other diseases. If you graphed timelines of the number of cancer deaths, fatal heart attacks, and fatal strokes, those timelines would be virtually flat.

Virus epidemics, however, have relatively short time profiles, like what we’re seeing with COVID-19. There’s nothing unusual about the fact that the coronavirus death count is dying a natural death. That should have been anticipated, and it should now be widely publicized. Why are we pretending not to know this good news? These facts are easy to find. We ought to be celebrating like we did when WWII ended.

This COVID-19 death profile is extremely significant yet is almost totally ignored by the media. Their focus is on cases, not deaths. The number of cases has not decreased as rapidly as the number of deaths. Only a small percentage of cases now ends in death, and the death count is vastly more important than the case count. The case count may linger, but that problem is becoming increasingly manageable.

The latest reported weekly death count (August 29) was 370. That’s out of a population of 330 million people. In a single week, between August 8 and August 15, the number of deaths dropped 85 percent (from 3,169 to 455). The COVID-19 death rate in the U.S. is now barely more than one per million and dropping like a rock. Coronavirus deaths are currently half the number of weekly vehicle fatalities. We’re now seeing the pandemic in our rearview mirror.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...y.html#ixzz6XZQuvABI



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They think they have the President again because of the Woodward interview where he said he wanted to play it down. Yeah, that's what leaders do. I'm so freaking sick of this crap.


Yeah, that's the main headline of FoxNews.com right now. They 'accuse' President Trump of maintaining a calm and professional demeanor, as if that's a bad thing. The LAST thing we need is our leader running around in a blind panic.

Of course, the libs desperately NEED panic and fear right now - it's the only weapon they have to sway the election. And, of course, we all know that.

Reminds me of the joke about FDR walking across the water to retrieve the Pope's hat, saying the press would spin it as "President can't swim.". .



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I recall early in this they slammed Trump every time he developed a plan with an end.

How DARE a President give his people hope that a horrible situation will end. Apparently the media wants a leader running in circles, waving his hands screaming, "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIEEEEE"




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Keep this in mind too, in the month of July about 32,000 people died of COVID per the CDC. Also per the the CDC, there were 1.9 million new cases of COVID in July.

I'll save you the math, that's a mortality rate of 1.6%.

Overall we have 6.5 million cases and 175k deaths. That's a 2.7% mortality rate. As you can see, the mortality rate is dropping like a rock now. Either we have figured out how to treat it, or, forgive my callousness, those susceptible to it have already died from it. I'm guessing it's we've figured out how to treat it.
 
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A Doctor Went to His Own Employer for a COVID-19 Antibody Test. It Cost $10,984.

Physicians Premier ER charged Dr. Zachary Sussman’s insurance $10,984 for his COVID-19 antibody test even though Sussman worked for the chain and knows the testing materials only cost about $8. Even more surprising: The insurer paid in full.

https://www.propublica.org/art...-test-it-cost-10-984



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The President is doing an outstanding job answering questions.
 
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Overall we have 6.5 million cases and 175k deaths. That's a 2.7% mortality rate. As you can see, the mortality rate is dropping like a rock now. Either we have figured out how to treat it, or, forgive my callousness, those susceptible to it have already died from it. I'm guessing it's we've figured out how to treat it.


The virus has basically burned though the susceptible population (i.e. advanced age and/or multiple serious comorbidities) based on the declining rate of hospitalizations and fairly steady daily "positive PCR" data which continues to run between 5-10% of those tested since the end of April.
Scroll down this link for COVID-19 Test Results

Just how bad a decision the lockdown and other mandated "mitigation" measures prove to be will be sorted out in time. This paper from the journal Disaster Medicine and Public Health Preparedness seems like a good start:

"Public health lessons learned from biases in coronavirus mortality overestimation
Ronald B. Brown, PhD
School of Public Health and Health Systems University of Waterloo, Waterloo, ON N2L 3G1, Canada

Abstract
In testimony before U.S. Congress on March 11, 2020, members of the House Oversight and Reform Committee were informed that estimated mortality for the novel coronavirus was ten- times higher than for seasonal influenza. Additional evidence, however, suggests the validity of this estimation could benefit from vetting for biases and miscalculations. The main objective of this article is to critically appraise the coronavirus mortality estimation presented to Congress. Informational texts from the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are compared with coronavirus mortality calculations in Congressional testimony. Results of this critical appraisal reveal information bias and selection bias in coronavirus mortality overestimation, most likely caused by misclassifying an influenza infection fatality rate as a case fatality rate. Public health lessons learned for future infectious disease pandemics include: safeguarding against research biases that may underestimate or overestimate an associated risk of disease and mortality; reassessing the ethics of fear-based public health campaigns; and providing full public disclosure of adverse effects from severe mitigation measures to contain viral transmission."

You can read the pre-print here: Linky

Be prepared to have your blood boil.


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^^^^ This needs much broader publication. The media, local governments and even Johns Hopkins are ALL reporting infections as "cases", and insinuating that the rise in positive infection tests means a rise in actual "cases", and extrapolates that to "more people are gonna die!".

CDC and NIAID getting this wrong is inexcusable. But it is interesting to realize that their calculations for various things like annual influenza death rates are published and reported, but ultimately the quality of the data and calculation is inconsequential because it's just news and not linked to policy. So there is no feedback mechanism to expose errors, and therefore they have not developed the quality methods needed.

In my field - manufacturing - quality data is ever present in the form of defect rates, customer reject rates, warranty failures, etc. Therefore we have a lot of quality processes to ensure we make the product correctly, and we know when we are doing it right, and when we are doing it wrong. This also goes upstream to design related quality issues.

So now, the first time CDC and NIAID data and calculations have actually been used for something important, they were way off, leading to a lot of bad decisions.

In the end, the only "death" measure we should look at is any increase in 2020 death rates relative to long term historical death rates. Any actual overage of deaths may be COVID related (controlling for changes in murder, suicide, accidents, and increased mortality from lack of medical care availability for other conditions), and all of the fake COVID deaths (like the real influenza deaths that magically disappeared) will be averaged out.
 
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I recall early in this they slammed Trump every time he developed a plan with an end.

How DARE a President give his people hope that a horrible situation will end. Apparently the media wants a leader running in circles, waving his hands screaming, "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIEEEEE"
Its all about hope. The Left wants you to have none of it. Misery is the goal, and they're working 24/7 on all levels to that end.


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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...9-relief-loan-scheme

Former New York Jets wide receiver Josh Bellamy was arrested for his alleged role in a $24 million scheme to receive illegal loans intended for coronavirus relief, the U.S. Justice Department announced Thursday.

Bellamy, 31, was charged in a federal criminal complaint with fraud, bank fraud, and conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. He allegedly received more than $1.2 million in Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans for his company Drip Entertainment LLC, according to the Justice Department.

Bellamy, recovering from a shoulder injury, was released Tuesday from the Jets'

According to the Justice Department, Bellamy spent more than $62,000 in loan money at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Florida. He also is accused of using more than $104,000 for luxury goods, including purchases at Dior, Gucci and various jewelers, in addition to withdrawing more than $302,000.

Ten other defendants were allegedly involved in the scheme.

The PPP allows qualifying small businesses suffering financial hardship from the COVID-19 pandemic to receive low-interest loans.
 
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Here is a blog post of a Scottish MD who gives credit to Dr. Brown for the article in Disaster Medicine and Public Health Preparedness which I posted a few days ago:

"4th September 2020

COVID – why terminology really, really matters

[And the consequences of getting it horribly wrong]

When is a case not a case?

Since the start of the COVID pandemic I have watched almost everyone get mission critical things wrong. In some ways this is not surprising. Medical terminology is horribly imprecise, and often poorly understood. In calmer times such things are only of interest to research geeks like me. Were they talking about CVD, or CHD?

However, right now, it really, really, matters. Specifically, with regards to the term COVID ‘cases...’

Read the blog post here: Dr. Kendrick

I have yet to see any reference to this extremely important revelation in any main-stream press. Tucker Carlson should interview Dr. Brown. That might wake some folks up.


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Sister in Law's was here for a BBQ Labor Day. She told me her best friend just went to her Dr. with a cold or mild flu like symptoms... she filled out the paperwork for a covid test. When she found out how long the wait time would be she decided to skip it and leave. She never had the test or saw the DR.

Three days later she was notified she tested positive. Roll Eyes



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She never had the test or saw the DR.

Three days later she was notified she tested positive. Roll Eyes


Same thing was just relayed to me by my youngest brother today. Happened to a guy from work who went to doc on Tuesday. Never tested but somehow he’s a statistic now.


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A local business man just put up this billboard on one of the busiest roads here. It flashes a few different messages but you get the idea and each message is "anti" our idiot governor and his imperial dictates.
 
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Chinese virologist claims she has proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/...s-made-in-wuhan-lab/

A Chinese virologist who has reportedly been in hiding for fear of her safety has stepped out into the public eye again to make the explosive claim that she has the scientific evidence to prove COVID-19 was man-made in a lab in China.

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, a scientist who says she did some of the earliest research into COVID-19 last year, made the comments Friday during an interview on British talk show “Loose Women.”

When asked where the deadly virus that has killed more than 900,000 around the globe comes from, Yan — speaking via video chat from a secret location — replied, “It comes from the lab — the lab in Wuhan and the lab is controlled by China’s government.”

She insisted that widespread reports that the virus originated last year from a wet market in Wuhan, China, are “a smokescreen.”

“The first thing is the [meat] market in Wuhan … is a smokescreen and this virus is not from nature,” Yan claimed, explaining that she got “her intelligence from the CDC in China, from the local doctors.”

The virologist has previously accused Beijing of lying about when it learned of the killer bug and engaging in an extensive cover-up of her work.

She had said that her former supervisors at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, a reference laboratory for the World Health Organization, silenced her when she sounded the alarm about human-to-human transmission in December last year.

In April, Yan reportedly fled Hong Kong and escaped to America to raise awareness about the pandemic.

Now, she said she is planning to release scientific evidence to prove that the virus was made inside a lab in Wuhan.

“The genome sequence is like a human finger print,” she told the talk show. “So based on this you can identify these things. I use the evidence … to tell people why this has come from the lab in China, why they are the only ones who made it.”

Yan added, “Anyone, even if you have no biology knowledge, you can read it, and you can check and identify and verify by yourself.”

“This is the critical thing for us to know the origin of the virus,” she said. “If not we cannot overcome it — it will be life-threatening for everyone.”

She said she is coming out now because “I know if I don’t tell the truth to the world, I will be regretful.”

Yan also claimed that before fleeing China, her information was wiped from government databases.

“They deleted all my information,” she told “Loose Women,” claiming that people have been recruited “to spread rumors about me, that I’m a liar.”

Yuan Zhiming, the director of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, has previously denied reports that the bug accidentally spread from his facility.

“There’s no way this virus came from us,” Zhiming told state media in April.


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I got Karened today by what seemed to be a transplant to the South.

I didn't have my mask pinched to my nose tight enough for him. He had a Bostonian, smug liberal accent like I was some sort of lesser person because I talk funny.

I'm normally an asshole, but when someone goes out of their way to irritate me, I'm at 11.

I quietly informed him that if he didn't step back from my shoulder that I would yell "GET YOUR HAND OFF MY ASS YOU GODDAMMED PERVERT!!!"

He just retreated to his wife muttering.


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I didn't have my mask pinched to my nose tight enough for him.


Seriously? I think I would have lost it.
 
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Well, Los Angeles has banned Halloween.
https://fox59.com/newsfeed-now...ict-halloween-rules/


They must have gotten significant pushback.

"On Tuesday, the Department of Public Health posted Halloween guidelines on its website stating that door-to-door trick-or-treating is banned under the county health order.... By Wednesday, however, the guidelines were changed, with trick-or-treating listed as "not recommended,'' instead of "not permitted."

https://abc7.com/halloween-202...los-angeles/6416043/


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Uh, yeah. And LA is going to send the PD to break up how many adult Halloween parties in their city? Right.
 
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I was quite depressed by what I saw today. The family and I went to the Hogle Zoo in Salt Lake City today. Masks were required indoors (i was kicked out of the Polar Bear/Seal exhibit for not covering my face), but of course masks were not required outside. At least 90% of guests were wearing masks outside. Obviously 95% of the zoo is outside. I just don't get it. These people seriously baffle me. It's depressing. Many people will never come out of this mental retardation they've been driven to.

One instance did make my wife and I laugh out loud though. We're walking outside (huge spacious area), and walking towards us from the opposite direction is a family with a boy around 4 or 5. He's running around like 4 year olds do and gets to within four feet of us. The woman screams as loud as can be, "get over here! Those people aren't wearing masks!"

My wife and I just looked at each other incredulously for a second then burst out laughing. Damn, these people have really had a number done to them.


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