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Voices from the Pandemic

‘It’s like Trump said: The cure has been worse than the disease.’

That's a painful read, but what's worse it's only one of 10's of thousands of stories, or millions of normal time clock punchers stories.

Just earlier today I was talking to my wife about how we were lucky and only lost $20,000, but still had money in the bank and jobs.

This whole thing has been complete BS it should have ended in May or June. I understand the extreme caution, but when the information came out that it's not as bad as initially feared, it them became political. The thought that they'd hold millions and millions of people hostage for political points makes me sick to my stomach.

The cure has been ten times worst than the disease.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
We went to see our accountant at the end of the summer. He looked over the numbers but he didn’t say much, and that’s not like him. I said: “What would you do?” He said the way things were going, we’d have nothing left to lose within a few months.

We made the decision right then. There wasn’t much to discuss.

Our last day is September 30th, and then we’re done.

What should make every person in this country furious is earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, and the like are totally unpreventable....this disaster on the other hand was completely preventable and was intentionally inflicted on the country for nothing more than political gain. The people responsible should be burned at the stake on the capitol lawn in Washington and every state capital on national TV for what they've done. No compassion and no second chances. Every single one of them.

new CDC study

for those who get the virus

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):

Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...down-regime-n2576983

SDY, I don't doubt those are real numbers but you now believe the CDC? I don't believe any stats they put out.

No US govt should have the power to do what they have done.

Why has fauci not been hanged?

So I had a debate with one of our docs (I work for radiologists) a week ago about timing to get the flu shot this year. Later to maintain efficacy later in the season vs. earlier to have it while all the unvaccinated folks are wandering about. He won, of course, actually got flu shot this morning.

Of course one of our other docs pops up today with this article. Who knows what to believe, but it's just more of 2020 man! In fairness, I'm probably as likely to die from the flu as the Wuflu, so meh, a tossup.

Proteins that contaminate influenza vaccines have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins thus increasing risk of severe COVID-19 disease and mortality

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Influenza vaccines are manufactured using chicken eggs, canine kidney cells or insect cells. Chicken and dogs can be infected with numerous viruses including coronaviruses. Therefore influenza vaccines can be contaminated with coronavirus proteins. These coronavirus proteins of course have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins. Further, we show that even chicken egg proteins have high homology to SARS-CoV-2 proteins. Influenza vaccine administration is known to create IgE mediated sensitization (allergy) to all proteins in the vaccine. In fact, vaccine-induced egg allergy is required for the vaccine to work and protect against influenza. This is because most influenza vaccines lack an adjuvant and they depend on the allergic reaction at the injection site to provide an adjuvant effect.

Upon COVID-19 infection, patients will suffer an allergic reaction due to cross reaction against SARS-CoV-2 proteins. This predictably produces anaphylaxis symptoms. Since the viral load increases over a few days, we have slow rolling anaphylaxis. The result is damage to multiple organs. Acute respiratory distress syndrome results from lung damage. Cardiac injury due to Kounis syndrome. Coagulation dysfunction, hypotension and shock are other possible outcomes. As in anaphylaxis treatment, epinephrine, histamine H1 and H2 blockers, etc. help prevent or treat these conditions.

Oh good just got my flu shot last week! Guess a bunch of us will be dead men walking if this is true.

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Influenza vaccines are manufactured using chicken eggs, canine kidney cells or insect cells.

Did you notice they didn't mention the lizard cells?

Sleight of hand. While you were watching the shiny chicken egg, dog kidney and insect cells (ewwwww) they were palming the lizard cells behind their back.

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SDY, I don't doubt those are real numbers but you now believe the CDC? I don't believe any stats they put out.

Look at it this way. When the CDC is publishing stats like this that completely contradicts and/or provides little support for the agenda the left is using to try and keep this panic porn alive, I think the numbers are more likely to be somewhere close to the truth.

Can someone take hydroxychloroquine multiple times in a year? I know President Trump took it a few months ago. He'll be fine either way. I'm more curious for personal use since sometimes it's prescribed for preventative reasons.

Yes, you can take hydroxychloroquine multiple times a year.
In malaria and dengue areas of Africa, we hand them out like candy. It's all over the counter.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
Can someone take hydroxychloroquine multiple times in a year? I know President Trump took it a few months ago. He'll be fine either way. I'm more curious for personal use since sometimes it's prescribed for preventative reasons.

Lupus patients take it daily for years.

https://www.lupus.org/resource...n-hydroxychloroquine

Hydroxychloroquine was previously prescribed only for people whose lupus disease activity was mild in its course; if the lupus became active, steroids or immunosuppressants would be prescribed instead. Today, however, HCQ is recommended for most individuals with lupus, whether mild, moderate, or severe, as well as during pregnancy and while breastfeeding. Given the drug’s many and varied beneficial effects and its excellent long-standing safety profile, most rheumatologists believe that hydroxychloroquine should be taken by people with lupus throughout their lifetime. Annual examinations with a qualified retina specialist are strongly encouraged, however.

Mrs. SynthRob and I have taken it every day for the last 10 years for arthritis. Never experienced any side effects. Healthy otherwise.

Good news from Michigan.

Michigan Supreme Court strikes down governor's virus orders

The Michigan Supreme Court has struck down months of orders by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that were aimed at that were aimed at preventing the spread of the coronavirus.

The court says Whitmer illegally drew authority from a 1945 law that doesn’t apply.

https://www.fox17online.com/ne...vernors-virus-orders

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Originally posted by mbinky:
Good news from Michigan.

Michigan Supreme Court strikes down governor's virus orders

The Michigan Supreme Court has struck down months of orders by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that were aimed at that were aimed at preventing the spread of the coronavirus.

The court says Whitmer illegally drew authority from a 1945 law that doesn’t apply.

https://www.fox17online.com/ne...vernors-virus-orders

Brit Hume provided this link today from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. It’s a detailed study on the efficacy of face masks for prevention of, and protection from, transmission of the COVID virus.

Masks don’t

AAPS Mask Study

It won’t surprise you to hear that Big Tech, i.e. Facebook calls the article “partly false.” Anything contrary to Big Tech’s orthodoxy is always at least “partly false.”

The study also calls the chance of contracting the Virus “from a passing interaction in a public space,” minimal.

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I don't know much about this Dr. Scott Atlas of Stanford University, but I do know he makes the lefties head's explode.

Trump’s New C19 Advisor Cites Research Showing Widespread Immunity. Calls out CDC Head Redfield’s False Testimony to Stunned Press

Chris Wallace caps a bad week with a strange attack against Scott Atlas

On Tuesday night, during the first presidential debate, Chris Wallace was weak and ineffectual. He was also a partisan without the decency to admit it. On Wednesday, Wallace blamed Trump for his own failings, a coward's way out. And Friday, he announced that Scott Atlas, M.D. is not qualified to talk about Wuhan virus policy because he is not an epidemiologist. This almost random collateral attack has nothing to do with the important skill sets Atlas brings to Trump's White House Coronavirus Task Force.

The real reason why Scott Atlas is in the left's crosshairs is that he's a new voice on the White House Coronavirus Task Force, and he's saying things the left dislikes. His usefulness lies in the fact that he's a brilliant man who is a counterweight to Fauci, who is all in for locking America down indefinitely.

Although Fauci is primarily responsible for Trump's initial approach to the virus — an approach the left now claims leaves Trump with blood on his hands — the left loves Fauci. Leftists resent that Trump has added an opposing voice to the Task Force.

The left's hostility to Atlas reflects a general problem with socialists: they value only their opinions (think "cancel culture") and invariably embrace groupthink. Groupthink creates conditions for Lysenkoism in scientific endeavors. This can be incredibly dangerous because there's no one to point out their factual errors or fallacious reasoning and conclusions.

Atlas's ideas are especially repugnant for a party invested in the shutdown. Atlas, having looked at Sweden versus the rest of the world, concluded that, now that we have a better handle on the Wuhan virus, there's a lot to be said for re-opening the country, protecting the vulnerable, and letting the virus run its course. Atlas is also dangerous because he's opposed to Obamacare and might be a loud voice for continued changes to allow the free market to bring down medical prices in America.

Certainly, Atlas has respectable credentials. He has a B.S. in biology and an M.D. from the renowned Pritzker School of Medicine in Chicago. He specializes in neuroradiology and worked and taught at Stanford University Medical Center, one of the most prestigious medical institutions in the world. He is also a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and has been a health care policy adviser for over a decade. His record shows that he's brilliant, that he's fully versed in core medical issues of the kind all doctors must know, and that he has a full understanding of biological processes.

I have a particular fondness for Atlas because he wrote one of the best medical articles ever written. Called "The Worst Study Ever," he explained in clear, data-rich terms why the study known as the "World Health Report 2000," in which the World Health Organization gave America a very low rating, was a sham:

In fact, World Health Report 2000 was an intellectual fraud of historic consequence — a profoundly deceptive document that is only marginally a measure of health-care performance at all. The report's true achievement was to rank countries according to their alignment with a specific political and economic ideal — socialized medicine — and then claim it was an objective measure of "quality."

Sadly, the article is no longer available online.

Chris Wallace, once again showing his leftist orientation, has offered a peculiar complaint about Atlas's new role working with the White House. Despite Atlas's vast areas of study and experience, Wallace is troubled that Atlas is not a credentialed epidemiologist:

Chris Wallace, on FOX: "I'm going to say something, and folks, I'm just trying to give you the truth. Scott Atlas is not an epidemiologist... he has no training in this area at all. There are a number of top people on the WH task force who have grave concerns about Atlas"

Wallace's criticism is particularly strange given that Fauci, whom Wallace seems to appreciate, is not an epidemiologist, either. Instead, he's an immunologist.

The reality is that the best task force will always pull in highly intelligent, informed people who have a reasonably wide range of expertise and a willingness to examine different issues and approaches. Wallace, though, doesn't want someone who will challenge Fauci, even though Fauci was the man responsible for Trump's initial approach to the Wuhan virus — an approach that leftists now claim was a disaster.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...s.html#ixzz6ZpJSMjv5

I'm going to say something, and folks, I'm just trying to give you the truth. Chris Wallace is not a doctor. He has no training in medicine at all and is ill-equipped to make judgments on any doctor's fitness to be a part of a task force to advise the president on handling Wuhan Flu. There are a number of people in this country who have grave concerns about Wallace.

I'm subbing in the computer lab at my kids' school today. There's a nifty handheld UVC light I'm supposed to use between periods to disinfect each work station. I have 1st period free, so I look up the device online to see how to use it. It says the device will kill bacteria in 5 seconds and is good for a 20"x12" area. Each workstation is 3' so 15 seconds per workstation times 20 workstations is 5 minutes.

I can do that, but I decide to look further. What about viruses I ask myself? Looking at the manufacturer's instructions for the device it says it is effective on human coronavirus, but does not give the exposure time. I look that up and find a study that says 15 minutes of exposure was required to inactivated SARS-CoV2. So, 45 minutes per workstation times 20 workstation is 15 hours. Not gonna happen.

In other theater news, I've removed the inside layer of my mask and breathing is much easier now. I'll be adding gill slits to the mask next.

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Originally posted by TMats:
Brit Hume provided this link today from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. It’s a detailed study on the efficacy of face masks for prevention of, and protection from, transmission of the COVID virus.

Masks don’t

AAPS Mask Study

It won’t surprise you to hear that Big Tech, i.e. Facebook calls the article “partly false.” Anything contrary to Big Tech’s orthodoxy is always at least “partly false.”

The study also calls the chance of contracting the Virus “from a passing interaction in a public space,” minimal.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/21...19-crisis-fauci-says NPR, so no clicky, please:

"MARTIN: Why has it been so hard to convince Americans to wear masks?

FAUCI: You know, that difficult, really, to give a single explanation. There is, you know, a bit of pushback on authority - the American spirit of not wanting to be told what to do. But I think as we've heard from the segment that you just played, the data and the evidence that this can be very helpful as part of a multifaceted way to get these cases down and to diminish the transmissibility and acquisition is very clear. So we just have to try to get a crisp, clear message to people that this is an important tool in our armamentarium. We can actually turn things around.

And as one of your guests just mentioned on the clip, it isn't the only thing, but it is an important component. There's physical distancing. There's things like closing bars, like not doing things as much inside, like diminishing the number of people in an indoor restaurant, going outdoors more than indoors. All of that together with a mask will be the important thing that turns this around.

MARTIN: You said there needs to be a crystallized, clear, concise message. But, you know, the administration has given mixed messages about masks for many months now. Is it time for a federal mask mandate?"


Doctor Fauci waffles
Now masks work
Bald faced lie.