I’d consider it under conditions like: it comes out of the WH operating budget with no increase in fees or taxes, can also be funded by budgets of schools, universities and DMV under same constraints. Must be made by American company in the USA like 3M.

Wish is to basically say I won’t willingly comply.

I believe, that since WWII, we've always had a "the Boogie Man coming to get us" fear among the American population.

First Russians, then Cubans, then Terrorists and now Covid-19.

Can't we just color our current masks white and call it a day?

And why stop at N95? Why not N97?

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
As predictable as my morning constitutional.

It's all because of our savior, Joke Biden!

i think some of you guys just need to move on. Just do your thing. being fixated on this mask thing is making you guys look like the people you despise. being obsessed cannot be good for you. it is pretty obvious it is having a negative affect on you. it is just a handful of you that cannot move past this point in time. life has and needs to move on. this too will pass.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
i think some of you guys just need to move on. Just do your thing. being fixated on this mask thing is making you guys look like the people you despise. being obsessed cannot be good for you. it is pretty obvious it is having a negative affect on you. it is just a handful of you that cannot move past this point in time. life has and needs to move on. this too will pass.

Right on, Karen

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Right on,

Good to hear Festus!

Moving the goalposts again!

Now it's 3 shots and 2 masks - and the mask wearing is required even after everyone is vaccinated.

Next it will be 3 masks and weekly injections for life

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/ne...ird-shot-bill-gates/

Third shot may be needed to combat new coronavirus variants, Bill Gates says

A third dose of coronavirus vaccine may be needed to prevent serious cases of new variants of the disease, Bill Gates said Tuesday. The billionaire philanthropist's comments come amid to the growing concern that current vaccines are less effective against the South African and Brazilian variants.

"The discussion now is do we just need to get a super high coverage of the current vaccine, or do we need a third dose that's just the same, or do we need a modified vaccine?" Gates told "CBS Evening News" anchor and managing editor Norah O'Donnell.

"All five of the companies that have U.S. vaccines are looking at making that modification and adding that in so that people who've already had two shots might need to get a third shot," he said. "I think it's reasonably likely that we will have a tuned vaccine just to make absolutely sure that as these variants hit the U.S. that they're not escaping from vaccine protection."

Gates is funding studies in South Africa to determine whether the AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson and Novavax vaccines were as effective against the more contagious variant.

"AstraZeneca in particular has a challenge with the variant. And the other two, Johnson & Johnson and Novavax, are slightly less effective, but still effective enough that we absolutely should get them out as fast as we can while we study this idea of tuning the vaccine," Gates said.

If the coronavirus is not eradicated, he said, additional shots may be necessary in the future. "Probably not yearly, but as long as it's out there, we want as many Americans as possible not to be spreading it to each other," he said.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former head of the Food and Drug Administration, told CBS News' "Face the Nation" on February 7 that he believed the vaccines currently being distributed in the U.S. would offer "reasonable protection" against the new variants, even if they are less effective against the new strains. Still, he said, it may also be necessary to administer booster shots in the fall.

Doesn’t this just make you feel all safe and protected.
With everybody wearing a mask, your surgeon maybe getting an inferior (counterfeit) mask.
Seems silly that the whole country would be wearing mask made in China where this whole thing started.
Makes one wonder if some of these masks might have a bit of that China Virus embedded.

Down at the local Subway, checkin' out the menu...

I am going all in:
MSA Millennium CBC Gas Mask. $731.99 from Galls.
Dupont hooded / booted disposable haz mat suit from Discount Safety Gear. $8.50 each and quantity discounts are available.
Then I can grocery shop in safety.

Yet another prong of the attack on the people in this country. Biden wants federal workers punished for not wearing masks and rewards given to those that get the vaccine in the form of paid leave. He also wants police action taken against non-federal folks for not masking up on federal property; where an agency does not have LEO’s, he wants local police called in to take enforcement action. 1984 gets closer each day with these people.

https://www.govexec.com/workfo...-bonus-leave/172111/

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

Biden wants federal workers punished for not wearing masks

https://www.govexec.com/workfo...-bonus-leave/172111/

The punishment for non-compliance is terrible to contemplate. Per the linked article, this punishment actually goes as far as paid administrative leave!

This is harsh and cruel punishment. Probably unconstitutional.

From the text-
“ They should consider banning those employees from the workplace until the disciplinary action is resolved and place the worker on paid administrative leave until the punishment is issued”

The paid leave for noncompliance is to keep from being sued; the “punishment” is the part that should be of real concern. THAT won’t be paid leave I can assure you.

I just tell the mask Karen's that I already had the Rona and have been vaccinated, all is well


You can't hide from this shit, if it's gonna get ya, nothing you can do about it

Reports that 1/3rd of the military is refusing vaccination. So in order to convince the peon's to get the vaccine, the commanders are coming up with some "imminent deployment" bullshit to get their numbers up. That'll go over like a turd in a punch bowl. Lying to your subordinates will lose their trust and erode all semblance of discipline. Fucking military leadership now is pathetic.

Thousands of service members are refusing or putting off COVID-19 vaccine

Who made Windows 95 Bill Gates an expert on pandemics and immunization?

Stick to making crappy operating systems, you globalist cocksmoker

How long before Commissar Lloyd Austin declares that vaccine refusal equates with extremism...

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Originally posted by mutedblade:
Reports that 1/3rd of the military is refusing vaccination. So in order to convince the peon's to get the vaccine, the commanders are coming up with some "imminent deployment" bullshit to get their numbers up. That'll go over like a turd in a punch bowl. Lying to your subordinates will lose their trust and erode all semblance of discipline. Fucking military leadership now is pathetic.

Thousands of service members are refusing or putting off COVID-19 vaccine

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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
How long before Commissar Lloyd Austin declares that vaccine refusal equates with extremism...

No doubt. Add that they'll be counseling soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines inhibiting further progress in their careers (no schools, promotions, yada, yada, bullshit). The readiness numbers are gonna start tanking and they know it

Wuhan Lab Eligible to Receive US Taxpayer Funding Through 2024, NIH Confirms

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2021-02-18-2

The Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) is authorized to receive taxpayer funding for animal research until January 2024, the National Institute of Health told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The WIV is at the center of widespread speculation that COVID-19 could have entered the human population in China due to an accidental lab leak. Researchers at the lab were studying bat-based coronaviruses prior to the outbreak, a project partially backed by $600,000 in U.S. taxpayer funds routed to the lab through the nonprofit group EcoHealth Alliance.

The president of EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak, was the sole U.S. member of the World Health Organization (WHO) delegation that investigated the origins of the pandemic on the ground in China in January and February. While the WHO delegation has yet to release a report on their findings, Daszak said the White House should blindly accept their conclusion that it’s highly unlikely the virus could have leaked from the WIV.

Daszak also said American intelligence, which indicates researchers at the WIV became infected with COVID-like symptoms before the first known cases in December 2019, shouldn’t be trusted.

EcoHealth Alliance’s work researching bat-based coronaviruses in China was funded by a $3.7 million grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in 2014, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The grant was terminated by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in April amid criticism over EcoHealth Alliance’s relationship with the WIV. The NIH said in a letter the nonprofit’s work in China did not align with “program goals and agency priorities.”

The NIH told EcoHealth Alliance in July it would restore the grant if it met certain conditions, one of which was to arrange for an independent team to investigate the WIV to determine if it had possession of the SARS-COV-2 virus prior to the first known cases in December 2019.

Daszak told NPR that the NIH’s conditions were “preposterous.”

“I’m not trained as a private detective,” Daszak said. “It’s not really my job to do that.”

However, the WIV still has an active Foreign Assurance on file with the NIH Office of Laboratory Animal Welfare, which enables it to continue receiving taxpayer funds to engage in animal research, according to the NIH Office of Laboratory Animal Welfare.

A NIH spokeswoman told the Daily Caller News Foundation that the WIV’s Foreign Assurance was approved on Jan. 9, 2019, and is currently set to expire on Jan. 31, 2024.

The spokeswoman did not confirm whether the WIV is currently receiving direct or indirect taxpayer funding for research activities involving animals. EcoHealth Alliance’s last known subgrant to the WIV was in May 2019, according to USASpending.Gov.

EcoHealth Alliance received a new $7.5 million grant from the NIH to help establish a Centers for Research in Emerging Infectious Diseases. Daszak told NPR that the funds his organization received from the new grant will not be used for any research in China.

The president of the nonpartisan watchdog group White Coat Waste Project, Anthony Bellotti, told the DCNF that EcoHealth Alliance should be defunded entirely for funding “reckless gain-of-function animal experiments that may have led to the COVID-19 pandemic.”

“We’re urging Congress and the White House to defund EcoHealth now and secure independent investigations into whether their treacherous gain-of-function animal experiments at the Wuhan Institute of Virology led to the COVID outbreak.”