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And DeBlasio and Cuomo may have actually reached a point where some of these Jewish folks opt to change their voting practices. We'll have to wait and see.

I agree with this. These last few edicts from the "wanna be Don" Cuomo and "Beirut Bill" DeBlasio may have opened some eyes. Straight up antisemitism, pure and simple. The protests the other night made me smile.

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Unless Anarchists now support Trump, she was a little off base with that comment.

My wife’s pothead brother is an ardent Bolshevik Bernie supporter and Trump hater and despite the image of one of these turds with an anarchist flag in the background, insists the group are white supremacists because 1) they’re white and 2) they were plotting to kidnap a leftist democRAT opposed to Trump. Never mind that the FBI (Trumps employees) were the ones to thwart the plan.

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My wife’s pothead brother...

Does pot turn people into ardent leftists?
Serious question. I know people who were very conservative and I think they have smoked too much pot. They've gone off the deep end into TDS.

You know how you make a bad decision under the influence of alcohol? Well Pot has that effect.

I think that many that use Pot due so to relax, calm down, and really don't want to give a crap, this helps them do that. Is the green stuff a symptom or the cause? Probably a little bit of both. I do know the people that I see use it are not ambitious and would rather live off the government's tit. Have to stay home because of COVID? "Bummer dude. As long as the government can give me some money and I don't have to pay rent, well I will take one for the team."

I thought this was the Covid thread, not the "we debate weed for the 5,763,924th time" thread.

Where is compassion for the millions who have suffered harm from lockdowns?

I'm sure many Americans are growing tired of being labeled "insensitive" or "uncaring" or lacking compassion because we are perceived as not caring about "at-risk" people who might contract the coronavirus. Let's talk about "compassion for our fellow man."

Where's the compassion for the single mom who is increasingly struggling to purchase diapers or baby formula for her children? Where's the compassion for the victims of child abuse, which is no doubt spiking due to the economic slowdown?

Where's the compassion for those who have committed suicide or attempted suicide or will do either in coming months and years?

Where's the compassion for the tens of thousands of business-owners who have permanently closed their businesses, or for the tens of millions of unemployed former employees? Where's the compassion for those who have been forced to declare bankruptcy, or are agonizing over doing this?

Where's the compassion for the millions of college students who are experiencing increased levels of anxiety and depression over draconian campus policies that keep them isolated and prevents them from receiving a real education?

Where's the compassion for the younger schoolchildren who are unnecessarily living in fear? Where's the compassion for the same children who can't even play or socialize with other children anymore?

Where's the compassion for the hundreds of millions of people in impoverished nations who will suffer famine, misery, or death because food logistic systems are falling apart?

Where's the compassion for those who spent weeks or months in a hospital — for every health reason — and could not spend a minute with their loved ones, many dying alone?

Where's the compassion for family members who received no comfort from neighbors and friends after a loved one died because these people were not allowed to attend the funeral?

I'm not even mentioning the terrifying disappearance of fundamental rights and liberties that are being forfeited at a mind-boggling pace, or the growth of authoritarian governments. Or our "new normal," which now censors and bullies those who happen to hold opposing views.

Do most Americans now believe that less freedom and more government control will benefit mankind?

Has anyone else noticed the surge in violent crimes occurring in practically every city in this country?

One would be hard pressed to find individuals who lack compassion for those who have died due to COVID. However, common sense tells us that "higher-risk" citizens are smart enough to take their own precautions.

The argument that we should essentially lock down the world — and everyone should live in constant fear even if his own risks are minuscule — has transformed our country into a grim, unrecognizable place.

COVID has claimed and will continue to claim lives, but 99.9 percent of the country's population will not die from this virus.

By now, practically every family in the country has already experienced negative consequences or obvious harm...not from the virus, but from the policy responses to the virus. If normal activities continue to be prohibited, the number of Americans who will suffer life-altering hardships will approach 100 percent of our population.

My question: Where's the compassion for these hundreds of millions of people?

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...s.html#ixzz6aVOn3mKX

Breaking News SECOND WAVE COMING!!!...TRUMP LYING!!!... EVERYONE PANIC!!!!

In our local news at 11. Of course they have a brand new expert making these claims. Where do they find these people? Anyone looking for a fast buck?

https://www.clickondetroit.com...ginning-of-pandemic/

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Researchers surprised to find 20% of Chicagoans tested for coronavirus antibodies were positive

https://www.washingtonexaminer...bodies-were-positive



Researchers in Chicago were surprised to find that roughly 20% of the individuals who submitted blood for a recent study tested positive for coronavirus antibodies.

Nearly 1 in 5 Chicagoans who sent blood samples to Northwestern University researchers tested positive for the virus antibodies, according to the Chicago Tribune.

The infection rate of about 20% is higher than anticipated, especially compared to another study also from the Chicago area that showed a 5% antibody positivity rate.

“It’s telling us that exposure was higher than we thought, that it was higher than we thought throughout Chicago,” Dr. Elizabeth McNally, the director of the Center for Genetic Medicine at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, said.

McNally says that the project, examining infection rates in five pairs of neighboring Chicago ZIP codes with widely different coronavirus positivity levels, has allowed researchers to draw some initial conclusions, even though testing is ongoing.

“It’s telling us that exposure was higher than we thought, that it was higher than we thought throughout Chicago,” McNally said.

An antibody study conducted in New York City earlier this year suggested that 25% of residents in the nation’s largest city were positive for coronavirus antibodies.

Our local liberal paper - which endorsed Biden in the same issue - has a huge front page article listing the names of the 1300 Iowans who have died of corona. The article includes some bios and photos.

Special report: Read these tributes to Iowans lost to coronavirus

More than 1,300 Iowans have died from the coronavirus. Each of them was a friend and a neighbor. Each of them left a mark on their families and their communities. Each of them deserves to be remembered as more than a number.

In an unprecedented partnership, nine Iowa newsrooms across two companies have come together to lift up these Iowans’ stories.

Here are those stories...
Complete article:

https://qctimes.com/news/local...ource=home-top-story

The broken media will spin up a terrifying second wave and talk of little else until the election. It's a final push for their broken candidates. Biden polls best on the virus issue...probably because of the hysterical propaganda these people peddle. We are witnessing a soft coup where an activist media marginalizes a candidate while actively promoting the opponent.

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Only in CA (sorry to our members there) Thankfully he did not make this a law...yet.

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The office of California Gov. Gavin Newsom has told residents in the Golden State that if they go out to eat, they should be wearing a mask “ in between bites ” to protect themselves from COVID-19.

“Going out to eat with members of your household this weekend?” an Oct. 3 tweet from the governor’s office says. “Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ia-govs-diners-masks

Governor Gruesome Nuisance. Most residents ignore him anyway.

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Does pot turn people into ardent leftists?

I call him a pothead because that is exactly what he is. His entire life revolves around getting high. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there leading productive lives that smoke it, but he is not one of them. My description is accurate.

WHO Flip-Flops: Urges World Leaders To Stop Using Lockdowns To Fight COVID Contagion

https://www.zerohedge.com/medi...ight-covid-contagion

In a stunning rebuke of the "science" and the "doctors" and leftist politicians and career bureaucrats in the US and across much of The West, The Epoch Times' Evan Pentchoukov reports that The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 has urged world leaders to stop using lockdowns as the primary control method against the spread of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus.

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” David Nabarro told The Spectator in an interview aired on Oct. 8.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

[ZH: How long before this video is removed by Twitter?]

Nabarro pointed to the collateral damage that lockdowns are having worldwide, especially among poorer populations.

“Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry, for example in the Caribbean or in the Pacific, because people aren’t taking their holidays. Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world because their markets have got dented. Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. Seems that we may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents, in poor families, are not able to afford it,” Nabarro said.

“This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe actually,” he added. “And so we really do appeal to all world leaders: Stop using lockdown as your primary control method, develop better systems for doing it, work together and learn from each other, but remember - lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."

A number of medical or public health scientists and medical practitioners have signed the Great Barrington Declaration, which states that “current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health.”

The signatories include: “Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University and a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring of infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations, Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases, and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.”

“The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk,” the declaration states.

With few exceptions, world leaders followed in the footsteps of the Chinese communist regime when responding to the outbreak of the virus, imposing unprecedented lockdowns. Sweden, which did not impose a lockdown, did not experience an adverse outcome compared to some locales and nations that did.

In the United States, President Donald Trump delegated the decisions on lockdown measures to the governors of individual states, but has pushed for the economy to be reopened, and lockdowns lifted.

As William Anderson recently wrote for The Mises Institute, lockdowns only serve the progressive political class...

We have to understand that the political classes and their media have a vested interest in the lockdown status quo, and that includes regular provision of what only can be called disinformation. The mainstream media this past summer dutifully reported a highly questionable (I use that term charitably) report that the Sturgis Bike Rally in South Dakota led to more than a quarter million covid infections and more than $12 billion of medical costs. It should have been obvious on its face that the report was deeply flawed, yet in their desire to fuel the covid-is-killing-us narrative, journalists took this too-good-to-be-true story and ran with it.

As for politicians, the covid crisis has been a godsend for those governmental executives and bureaucrats who see constitutional restrictions that limit their authority as mere obstacles to be easily swept away. Governors such as Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Andrew Cuomo of New York, Gavin Newsom of California, and Tom Wolfe of Pennsylvania have received adoring coverage in the media for seizing and employing dictatorial powers, Whitmer even unilaterally deciding that the sale of garden seeds in stores was illegal. Cuomo’s decision to force the housing of covid-19 patients in nursing homes led to the deaths of thousands of people, yet his national media coverage is uniformly positive.

Contrast the affirmative news coverage of Cuomo with the barrage of media attacks on Governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota. Noem has emphasized personal responsibility and did not attempt mass closures of schools and businesses in the state, and the mainstream media erupted with fury. That South Dakota has come through this pandemic relatively well does not matter with the media, as the only acceptable action (to mainstream and elite journalists) in response to covid is for governors to single-handedly seize power and lock down their citizens.

Keep in mind that the real losses that Americans suffered because of the heavy-handed governmental response to the covid outbreak are permanent. As Robert Higgs so eloquently pointed out in Crisis and Leviathan, governments often create crises or, at the very least, they manipulate events such as natural disasters and use them as opportunities to expand governmental powers. Even after the crises end, governments keep some of their newly self-granted powers—and most people raise little or no concern even when government has curtailed more of their freedoms.

Presumably, this means Joe Biden will now be pushing for lockdowns to be lifted across all blue states?... because he is "listening to the scientists"?

^^^^^ If this is true it is very significant.

The CCP influenced WHO stood by and watched the rest of the world institute lockdowns like China did with Wuhan and greater Hubei, thereby crashing a significant part of the world economy, including China's biggest competitors. Now they say "WHOA MY BAD" and disavow lockdowns?

Bait and Switch? Do China's bidding to kill the rest of the world's economies as they miraculously "beat" the WuFlu with targeted lockdowns.

Do they think everyone is too stupid to make this connection? Looks we finally have the reason the left insists the lockdowns are so essential regardless of actual science. It's what China wants, and is probably paying for...

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I thought this was the Covid thread, not the "we debate weed for the 5,763,924th time" thread.

Nope, now it's the defend weed for the 5,763,925th time" thread.

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“It’s telling us that exposure was higher than we thought, that it was higher than we thought throughout Chicago,” McNally said.

Ok, I'm just gonna come out and say it, that doctor is a moron. The big takeaway from that study (assuming the results thus far are accurate) is that the virus has spread farther than they thought, has been far less fatal overall than they thought, and far more Chicagoans have antibody protection at this point than they thought. All of that is terrific news for everyone except those hellbent on spreading panic porn. It also once again highlights that the 'experts' don't know jack crap about this virus.

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Our local liberal paper - which endorsed Biden in the same issue - has a huge front page article listing the names of the 1300 Iowans who have died of corona. The article includes some bios and photos.

Special report: Read these tributes to Iowans lost to coronavirus

More than 1,300 Iowans have died from the coronavirus. Each of them was a friend and a neighbor. Each of them left a mark on their families and their communities. Each of them deserves to be remembered as more than a number.

In an unprecedented partnership, nine Iowa newsrooms across two companies have come together to lift up these Iowans’ stories.

Here are those stories...
Complete article:

https://qctimes.com/news/local...ource=home-top-story

They do the same thing for all the Iowans that have died from auto accidents? If not, why? Are they not just as dead? Are their lives somehow less important? The media needs to be beaten severely for the BS they've pulled regarding this virus.

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Ok, I'm just gonna come out and say it, that doctor is a moron. The big takeaway from that study (assuming the results thus far are accurate) is that the virus has spread farther than they thought, has been far less fatal overall than they thought, and far more Chicagoans have antibody protection at this point than they thought. All of that is terrific news for everyone except those hellbent on spreading panic porn. It also once again highlights that the 'experts' don't know jack crap about this virus.

No need to read the 600 plus pages in this thread.
This comment sums it up nicely!

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Our local liberal paper - which endorsed Biden in the same issue - has a huge front page article listing the names of the 1300 Iowans who have died of corona. The article includes some bios and photos.

^^^^^^^^^
I thought important athletes and movie stars were the only ones mentioned. (sarcasm}. When I lived in rural Wisconsin the radio station would read the names of OUR KNOWN HOSPITALIZED. Good old days before HIPPA>

My daughter just sent me this from an Australian news website. And then she found it on the NY Post (usually a conservative paper). But I cannot find anything about it on CNN, MSNBC, PBS or any other Fake News Media. I'll bet their editorial staffs are scratching their XXX's trying to figure out what to do about this. USA Today mentioned it, but took a couple of paragraphs out of context from the WHO statement and put it in an article about how bad things were in several states.

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WHO Flip-Flops: Urges World Leaders To Stop Using Lockdowns To Fight COVID Contagion

https://www.zerohedge.com/medi...ight-covid-contagion

In a stunning rebuke of the "science" and the "doctors" and leftist politicians and career bureaucrats in the US and across much of The West, The Epoch Times' Evan Pentchoukov reports that The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 has urged world leaders to stop using lockdowns as the primary control method against the spread of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus.