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The problem for the hysteria mongers is that it isn't sustainable...in retrospect, even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.
 
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The 7-day average is 10 deaths per day in the entire State of Missouri. I hate to sound crass, every life matters, but we can live with that. It's not a huge number.
What we [particularly Sam Page in St. Louis County] are doing to our economy, our mental health, our kids... is far worse than this disease.



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Opinions on wearing masks is an Art Bell shaped curve.


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...even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.
As I've pointed out, the truth always comes out. It's only a matter of how long it takes to reveal itself or be revealed.

Since this ridiculous bullshit affects essentially everyone on the planet, I predict this happening sooner rather thn later.
 
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I have yet to put on a mask for even one second since this started. Being the cynic I am I was suspicious of the manner this virus was portrayed from the beginning. Enough of the truth has already been revealed to prove my early suspicions were correct.

Even the most committed to the science from the start and the most compliant must be having some suspicions by now.

All you have to do is ask yourself why the streets are not being cleared of these large gathering of protestors in the name of the Covid.
Forget the right to assemble the covid is going to kill everyone right?
I pose that question to everyone who brings up the conversation with me. No one seems to have a answer.


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if this were a real pandemic, then why are we storing bodied in refrigerated trailers...shouldn't they go from autopsy straight to the kiln for cremation?

why are we stockpiling bodies?
 
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A video of Christians meeting at Walmart, reportedly in North Versailles, Pennsylvania, has gone viral on the internet.

The Christians were banned from meeting at their church thanks to Governor Wolf so they took to Walmart to come together in worship.

The video is originally from June.
 
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Explodey Pelosi:



Judy Woodruff? An advocate for the GOP? Judy Woodruff?? PBS??



Pelosi lashes out at PBS' Judy Woodruff during interview, suggests anchor is a GOP 'advocate'

This ancient airhead couldn't handle an honest question if her life depended on it.
 
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I've been seeing some silly things from people during this farce, but this morning just may top it all. I spent four hours kayaking on a 816 acre lake and what did I see? Out in the middle of all this water and woods all around and maybe half dozen other paddlers scattered out over the entire lake, there's "karen" paddling along with a f'ing mask on!!
 
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...even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.

And the biggest liar has been Dr. Fauci.


Bad medicine: Fauci's HCQ Waterloo

Dr. Anthony Fauci has been hailed in the press as the nation's top infectious disease expert. He's been feted with presidential honors and high praise for his medical acumen. His policy disagreements with President Trump, supposedly as the voice of "science," have made him a hero on the left. Such laurels and the implied power conveyed have led to some weird side-effects — such as his image featured on ladies' underwear and declarations that he's the sexiest man alive.

He's still being posterized on the left with calls to "Thank Dr. Fauci." Here's one:


Screenshot, banner ad.

But it's about time this idol topples, based on this summary about Fauci's startlingly bad medicine and bad medical policy on COVID, which has in fact cost thousands of lives. And yes, he is very specifically to blame.

Virologist Steven Hatfill, writing in RealClearPolitics, summed up just how disastrous Fauci has been for America's COVID response, based on Fauci's suppression of evidence about hydroxychloroquine, the safest and most effective treatment for COVID based on all reputable studies, and the political power he's used to halt its treatment even as the rest of the world got well from the inexpensive medication's use.

The "Fauci Strategy" was to keep early infected patients quarantined at home without treatment until they developed a shortness of breath and had to be admitted to a hospital. Then they would they [sic] be given hydroxychloroquine. The Food and Drug Administration cluelessly agreed to this doctrine and it stated in its hydroxychloroquine Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) that "hospitalized patients were likely to have a greater prospect of benefit (compared to ambulatory patients with mild illness)."

In reality just the opposite was true. This was a tragic mistake by Fauci and FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn and it was a mistake that would cost the lives of thousands of Americans in the days to come.

Other countries got well from COVID. But America didn't. America today is still floundering around on lockdowns, re-lockdowns, its schools shut, its election growing dubious. And the persistence of the pandemic can directly be traced to the incompetent, bad medical decisions of Dr. Anthony Fauci, which have left America a COVID wasteland while the rest of the world got well.

America's death rate from COVID in fact is shockingly high, hitting 150,000 as of July 29, while other countries, which have also been hit by the pandemic, such as Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Turkey, Morocco, Malaysia, and Costa Rica, plus European countries such as Switzerland, have got the matter well under control, with no comparable death counts. The difference is in their use of HCQ, or hydroxychloroquine. And those are mostly well developed or high-middle-income countries. What's really shocking is that third-world hellholes are doing better, too, if they can get their hands on and use HCQ. The U.S., under Fauci, has been left in the dust.

Here in our country, Fauci continued to ignore the ever accumulating and remarkable early-use data on hydroxychloroquine and he became focused on a new antiviral compound named remdesivir. This was an experimental drug that had to be given intravenously every day for five days. It was never suitable for major widespread outpatient or at-home use as part of a national pandemic plan. We now know now that remdesivir has no effect on overall COVID patient mortality and it costs thousands of dollars per patient.

Hydroxychloroquine, by contrast, costs 60 cents a tablet, it can be taken at home, it fits in with the national pandemic plan for respiratory viruses, and a course of therapy simply requires swallowing three tablets in the first 24 hours followed by one tablet every 12 hours for five days.

There are now 53 studies that show positive results of hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections. There are 14 global studies that show neutral or negative results — and 10 of them were of patients in very late stages of COVID-19, where no antiviral drug can be expected to have much effect. Of the remaining four studies, two come from the same University of Minnesota author. The other two are from the faulty Brazil paper, which should be retracted, and the fake Lancet paper, which was.

Hatfill points out that media malfeasance, badmouthing the use of HCQ, is an important aspect of why Fauci has gotten away with such shockingly bad medicine. The press loves Fauci, and Fauci knows how to use the press. Against all evidence and study after study, the press continues to report HCQ as "dangerous" and patients are going without and dying as a result. Hatfill writes:

This is ground-shaking news. Why is it not being widely reported? Why is the American media trying to run the U.S. pandemic response with its own misinformation?

The ultimate culprit here is Fauci. Everyone else worldwide gets well, while here in the States, under his policy recommendations and touting of bad medicine, we continue to wallow in the pandemic, the bodies piling up. Why isn't this ground-shaking news, too? This isn't making America great again; this is New York's Gov. Andrew Cuomo seeding the nursing homes with COVID patients cubed, tremendously bad policy that is literally costing Americans their lives, and all for political purposes.

It's probably going to be hard for President Trump to find a way to fire this guy, but the picture emerging is extremely disturbing. Fauci's suppression of hydroxychloroquine studies, his odd devotion to the new and profitable drug Remdesivir (which we have noted many NIH officials hold monetary stakes in), and Fauci's earlier papers from years back touting the importance of hydroxychloroquine on other kinds of COVID viruses paint a damning picture of what is going on, a horrible confluence of financial interests and a desire to extend the pandemic to Get Trump at a huge cost of lives. It's time to start thinking about how to get him out of there, fire him, bring in someone serious about using the widely known global knowledge about HCQ who's willing to move on it. This much incompetence is doing tremendous damage to President Trump and American people, both lives and economy. Get him out of there, he now stands exposed as a complete incompetent and has got to go. If Harry Truman could fire the vaunted Douglas MacArthur, Trump can fire Fauci, too.

https://www.americanthinker.co...faucis_waterloo.html



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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Yesterday, during an interview, our idiot governor here in Texas said that the case numbers were going down and maybe the mask order could be lifted by the new year. I was a strong supporter of Abbott but he has gone full retard now. First, he follows the other governors with a lockdown then the mask order and now it’s an order that depends on him picking some arbitrary number of cases that he likes before it’s lifted. So now the holiday season will come around and people will still be fully masked up for the death plaque. I don’t want my children out Christmas shopping in a place that looks like fucking China.
I’m so sick of this shit. I call his office everyday but it does no good when over half the fucking state loves wearing a mask. What the hell has happened to people? I’m so disgusted.


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I've been seeing some silly things from people during this farce, but this morning just may top it all. I spent four hours kayaking on a 816 acre lake and what did I see? Out in the middle of all this water and woods all around and maybe half dozen other paddlers scattered out over the entire lake, there's "karen" paddling along with a f'ing mask on!!


No different than people in their own vehicle, alone, wearing a mask driving down the street. Karen probably thinks it's in the lake and it's gonna get her ass.



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Yesterday, during an interview, our idiot governor here in Texas said that the case numbers were going down and maybe the mask order could be lifted by the new year. I was a strong supporter of Abbott but he has gone full retard now.
First, he follows the other governors with a lockdown then the mask order and now it’s an order that depends on him picking some arbitrary number of cases that he likes before it’s lifted. So now the holiday season will come around and people will still be fully masked up for the death plaque.
I don’t want my children out Christmas shopping in a place that looks like fucking China.
I’m so sick of this shit.
I call his office everyday but it does no good when over half the fucking state loves wearing a mask. What the hell has happened to people?
I’m so disgusted.


I'm with you, I am perplexed too on what happened to an otherwise great Governor?
I am so tired of being under HOUSE ARREST.
This is not America ... is it?
This used to be a freedom-loving country but now I am questioning the status quo.
Total bullshit!!! Mad
 
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All of you who are getting fed up with this shit- you've got a lot of catching up to do.
 
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...even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.

And the biggest liar has been Dr. Fauci.


Absolutely agree. His handling of HDQ is the least of it. If he is the face of CV in the US, and the US's experience/handling is so bad compared to the rest of the world-he has to go.

Trump is vilified no matter what, even if Trump himself developed a vaccine and gave it away for free, he'd still be orange man bad.

Mr President, move on from DrF ( give him a grade of F too). Find someone who is not only medically competent, but an advocate for reopening and making America Great Again.



Bad medicine: Fauci's HCQ Waterloo

Dr. Anthony Fauci has been hailed in the press as the nation's top infectious disease expert. He's been feted with presidential honors and high praise for his medical acumen. His policy disagreements with President Trump, supposedly as the voice of "science," have made him a hero on the left. Such laurels and the implied power conveyed have led to some weird side-effects — such as his image featured on ladies' underwear and declarations that he's the sexiest man alive.

He's still being posterized on the left with calls to "Thank Dr. Fauci." Here's one:


Screenshot, banner ad.

But it's about time this idol topples, based on this summary about Fauci's startlingly bad medicine and bad medical policy on COVID, which has in fact cost thousands of lives. And yes, he is very specifically to blame.

Virologist Steven Hatfill, writing in RealClearPolitics, summed up just how disastrous Fauci has been for America's COVID response, based on Fauci's suppression of evidence about hydroxychloroquine, the safest and most effective treatment for COVID based on all reputable studies, and the political power he's used to halt its treatment even as the rest of the world got well from the inexpensive medication's use.

The "Fauci Strategy" was to keep early infected patients quarantined at home without treatment until they developed a shortness of breath and had to be admitted to a hospital. Then they would they [sic] be given hydroxychloroquine. The Food and Drug Administration cluelessly agreed to this doctrine and it stated in its hydroxychloroquine Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) that "hospitalized patients were likely to have a greater prospect of benefit (compared to ambulatory patients with mild illness)."

In reality just the opposite was true. This was a tragic mistake by Fauci and FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn and it was a mistake that would cost the lives of thousands of Americans in the days to come.

Other countries got well from COVID. But America didn't. America today is still floundering around on lockdowns, re-lockdowns, its schools shut, its election growing dubious. And the persistence of the pandemic can directly be traced to the incompetent, bad medical decisions of Dr. Anthony Fauci, which have left America a COVID wasteland while the rest of the world got well.

America's death rate from COVID in fact is shockingly high, hitting 150,000 as of July 29, while other countries, which have also been hit by the pandemic, such as Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Turkey, Morocco, Malaysia, and Costa Rica, plus European countries such as Switzerland, have got the matter well under control, with no comparable death counts. The difference is in their use of HCQ, or hydroxychloroquine. And those are mostly well developed or high-middle-income countries. What's really shocking is that third-world hellholes are doing better, too, if they can get their hands on and use HCQ. The U.S., under Fauci, has been left in the dust.

Here in our country, Fauci continued to ignore the ever accumulating and remarkable early-use data on hydroxychloroquine and he became focused on a new antiviral compound named remdesivir. This was an experimental drug that had to be given intravenously every day for five days. It was never suitable for major widespread outpatient or at-home use as part of a national pandemic plan. We now know now that remdesivir has no effect on overall COVID patient mortality and it costs thousands of dollars per patient.

Hydroxychloroquine, by contrast, costs 60 cents a tablet, it can be taken at home, it fits in with the national pandemic plan for respiratory viruses, and a course of therapy simply requires swallowing three tablets in the first 24 hours followed by one tablet every 12 hours for five days.

There are now 53 studies that show positive results of hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections. There are 14 global studies that show neutral or negative results — and 10 of them were of patients in very late stages of COVID-19, where no antiviral drug can be expected to have much effect. Of the remaining four studies, two come from the same University of Minnesota author. The other two are from the faulty Brazil paper, which should be retracted, and the fake Lancet paper, which was.

Hatfill points out that media malfeasance, badmouthing the use of HCQ, is an important aspect of why Fauci has gotten away with such shockingly bad medicine. The press loves Fauci, and Fauci knows how to use the press. Against all evidence and study after study, the press continues to report HCQ as "dangerous" and patients are going without and dying as a result. Hatfill writes:

This is ground-shaking news. Why is it not being widely reported? Why is the American media trying to run the U.S. pandemic response with its own misinformation?

The ultimate culprit here is Fauci. Everyone else worldwide gets well, while here in the States, under his policy recommendations and touting of bad medicine, we continue to wallow in the pandemic, the bodies piling up. Why isn't this ground-shaking news, too? This isn't making America great again; this is New York's Gov. Andrew Cuomo seeding the nursing homes with COVID patients cubed, tremendously bad policy that is literally costing Americans their lives, and all for political purposes.

It's probably going to be hard for President Trump to find a way to fire this guy, but the picture emerging is extremely disturbing. Fauci's suppression of hydroxychloroquine studies, his odd devotion to the new and profitable drug Remdesivir (which we have noted many NIH officials hold monetary stakes in), and Fauci's earlier papers from years back touting the importance of hydroxychloroquine on other kinds of COVID viruses paint a damning picture of what is going on, a horrible confluence of financial interests and a desire to extend the pandemic to Get Trump at a huge cost of lives. It's time to start thinking about how to get him out of there, fire him, bring in someone serious about using the widely known global knowledge about HCQ who's willing to move on it. This much incompetence is doing tremendous damage to President Trump and American people, both lives and economy. Get him out of there, he now stands exposed as a complete incompetent and has got to go. If Harry Truman could fire the vaunted Douglas MacArthur, Trump can fire Fauci, too.

https://www.americanthinker.co...faucis_waterloo.html


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I've been seeing some silly things from people during this farce, but this morning just may top it all. I spent four hours kayaking on a 816 acre lake and what did I see? Out in the middle of all this water and woods all around and maybe half dozen other paddlers scattered out over the entire lake, there's "karen" paddling along with a f'ing mask on!!


No different than people in their own vehicle, alone, wearing a mask driving down the street. Karen probably thinks it's in the lake and it's gonna get her ass.
But look at this for exactly what it is. The media as a whole has colluded to promote, and continually support nothing but pure propaganda, and look how well it's worked with a huge majority of this country. They have convinced huge majorities of this country, against all the real data and common sense, that if you are exposed to the virus you die. A virus with a less than 2% current mortality rate has been manufactured into a world ending crisis like no other purely through deceit and pursuit of an agenda. The virus doesn't scare me at all. The idiocy, cowardice, and weakness of the American people scares the hell out of me.


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...in retrospect, even the dimmest is going to be able to figure out we were lied to and the world's politicians proved to be indecisive parasites paralyzed by the fear calculus.

I'm not so sure. I think once you drink the kool-aid there's associated blindness and impaired thinking.


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