The CDC is not necessarily a credible source of information. It's a political mouthpiece.

people are dying anyway.

so the question is how many people would have died from what is normally called 'natural causes' and how many people have dies exclusively because they caught the virus.

its like being treated for caner and having a suppressed immune system and then catching a flu bug - you died of cancer, not of the flu

we're being hosed and lied to because no one is telling us the real facts and underlying conditions.

just one more reason to NOT trust the government, the media, politicians in general...

the CDC is NOT our friend here - they are encouraging the falsification of data

Yeah, all this 'lather myself up in the Rona' Virus drama' is for sheep.

I don't doubt that the virus exists, but beyond that it is all political axes to grind against the administration and population. The numbers are bullshit.

The leftists have found a hot button in their attempt to control the population and that is FEAR and the desire for SAFETY above all other considerations. Just look at the states divide on how they deal with it.

Republican? Typically measured and proportionate action.

Leftists? Draconian and a 'one size fits all' punishment mentality.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by P210:
Good point. It would be interesting to know if there have been any unexplainable drops in death rates recorded as attributable to other causes.

If you were to look at the links maladat posted on the previous page, the opposite seems to be occurring. There's a unexplained (as in above and beyond reported COVID-19 deaths) spike in deaths worldwide over what would be expected based on past data for tbe month of April.

I just need to clear the record here because the All Cause Death numbers are indeed way down this year. But you won't find that truth if you are relying on Google or the lying media for your sources. Google for instance is hiding or burying any results that don't fit the Accepted Narrative.

And that cdc link goes on about again using models to get their numbers, so excuse if I don't have much faith in what they're force feeding us.

Good luck getting these links to pop up on Google unless you are very specific. Instead it's article after article stoking more fear, half-truths, and straight up lies.

https://wmbriggs.com/post/30606/

https://wmbriggs.com/post/30633/

As para said, "You cannot believe what they are telling you, and if they happen to accidentally tell you the truth, you shouldn't believe it anyway, based on the number of times we've been lied to."

100% correct. All news is fake; some of it is true, but it is all fake.

"We all gotta die sometime." Sgt Barnes.

Just one question.

If CHP Assistant Chief Ehlers believed the propaganda he was spewing, why did he have his Police standing shoulder to shoulder without masks?

Here are a few CHP officers breathing in a citizen’s face.
Her crime, standing still, she simply stood her ground, and did not resist arrest.
All Law Enforcement should be required to wear their mask when in contact with the public.

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As para said, "You cannot believe what they are telling you, and if they happen to accidentally tell you the truth, you shouldn't believe it anyway, based on the number of times we've been lied to."

100% correct. All news is fake; some of it is true, but it is all fake.

“Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” is a Latin phrase meaning "false in one thing, false in everything." At common law, it is the legal principle that a witness who testifies falsely about one matter is not credible to testify about any matter.

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
But...this was quoted from the New York Times, so it’s totally legit.

The sarcasm is strong in this one.

I posted that article from a few pages back by a local physician to my Facebook page. Within an hour it was removed, and not by me.

Google, Facebook, Youtube are all deleting anything that doesn't fit the leftists agenda.

Anything that contradicts the thought police is 'misinfomation'.

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Originally posted by SIG228:
I posted that article from a few pages back by a local physician to my Facebook page. Within an hour it was removed, and not by me.

Google, Facebook, Youtube are all deleting anything that doesn't fit the leftists agenda.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why anyone would use Fuckbook. Time & again they've proven to be the Enemy.

Because people use it to stay in touch with relatives who live away from them. They are aware of Facebook's manipulation and bias but ignore it in order to stay in touch with others. That's just the way it is. Many conservatives use Facebook.

I’ve lived in California for 25 years. Seen a lot of protests. This is the first one I’ve seen by conservatives.

The comments in social media are telling. They don’t just hate Trump. They hate me and anyone who thinks like me.

Well this shit has gotten personal. My grandmother was admitted with some really weird symptoms. Test has come back finally. She is positive for COVID.

The (pardon my french) fucking fact that I cannot be with her right now, or visit at all is completely heartbreaking. She is the reason I became a nurse and was one herself for many years.

Hey COVID Fuck you. And, while we are at it fuck all the ridiculous rules surrounding you made by complete fucking idiots.

That is all. Reinserting filter now.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Because people use it to stay in touch with relatives who live away from them. They are aware of Facebook's manipuation and bias but ignore it in order to stay in touch with others. That's just the way it is. Many conservatives use Facebook.

Yep, my wife and I live in Oregon. All four of our kids, my parents, my wife's parents, and all of our siblings all live in Utah.

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Originally posted by P226RN:
Well this shit has gotten personal. .

Tara, prayers for your grandmother and for you to get to see her as soon as possible.

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Originally posted by sigalert:
I’ve lived in California for 25 years. Seen a lot of protests. This is the first one I’ve seen by conservatives.

The comments in social media are telling. They don’t just hate Trump. They hate me and anyone who thinks like me.

Yep. Mrs. has seen a bunch of hateful FB posts by "friends" spewing vitriol at anyone who isn't as leftist as they are...

If FB weren't a part of her business efforts I bet her friend list would be as short as mine is.

Prayers for your grandmother 226RN and for you as well!

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Just one question.

If CHP Assistant Chief Ehlers believed the propaganda he was spewing, why did he have his Police standing shoulder to shoulder without masks?

Here are a few CHP officers breathing in a citizen’s face.
Her crime, standing still, she simply stood her ground, and did not resist arrest.
All Law Enforcement should be required to wear their mask when in contact with the public.

That's infuriating, frankly. Where in the fuck are their masks and distances, eh? Mental midgets.

Wait!...

What?!?

CDC link