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Originally posted by RAMIUS:

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
If you couldn't build antibodies nobody could ever recover from the infection.

So you’re telling me that people who have recovered from it can go about their daily business and don’t need to be in quarantine?

Yes, after a two week of no symptoms safety quarantine. We have workers at our hospital that tested positive and had symptoms return to work this week.

So they’re now immune? They can go lick door knobs in the corona unit? Honest question.

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Originally posted by sdy:
a significant issue

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...problematic-n2566543

Dr Birx:

"The intent is right now if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death," "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death."

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difficult problem

maybe a better approach is that a doctor has to make a call on each case:

primarily due to Covid 19 or

primarily due to xyz but Covid 19 present

Then Covid 19 deaths are only counted when the China virus was the primary cause.



Given many of the people dying are older and have general health problems this might be a better approach

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
How about we let a medical examiner determine the cause of the death seeing as how that is their specialty.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Eh, even then the answer may be "multiple causes" or something "aggravated by" the Kung Flu. Data gathering is a notoriously sloppy buisness, particularly when dealing with the unfamiliar.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
How about we let a medical examiner determine the cause of the death seeing as how that is their specialty.

THIS....Exactly!

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...llnesses/2960151001/

The majority of New York’s more than 4,700 deaths due to coronavirus were among men, and 86% of all deaths were among people who had underlying illnesses, such as hypertension and diabetes, new state data shows.

The statistics released late Monday offered the latest glimpse into how the rapidly spreading virus has impacted New York and made it the epicenter for COVID-19 in the nation.

Of the 4,758 deaths in New York since the first on March 14, 61% were men and 39% were women, the state Department of Health reportedon its new data portal.

In addition, 63% of the deaths were among those age 70 and older, while 7% of the cases were those 49 and younger.

And 4,089 of those who died had at least one other chronic disease, the records showed:

The leading underlying illness was hypertension, which showed up in 55% of the deaths.

Next was diabetes, which was diagnosed in 1,755 deaths, or about 37% of the cases.

Other top illnesses found in those who died from coronavirus were hyperlipidemia; coronary artery disease; renal disease and dementia.

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hypertension - high blood pressure

hyperlipidemia - abnormally high levels of fats (lipids) in the blood. The two major types of lipids found in the blood are triglycerides and cholesterol.

renal disease - kidney disease

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Originally posted by Fenris:
So if an asymptomatic person is in a car crash, decapitated and shot in the head that is scored as a Wuhan kill?

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car crash, decapitated and shot in the head

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Originally posted by GrumpyMCO:
And the IHME Model is now (8 April) down to 60,415 deaths by Aug 4th, it was 81,766 on April 6.

Peak Resource Usage and Peak Death days all pulled in significantly.

A 20% drop!

Only in the Public sector would such grossly inaccurate estimations be acceptable. I understand new data is coming to light - but they should just then put a huge * next to the numbers and below say "* We Don't Know Much and are making it up as we go"

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The unfortunate thing is that people will fall into two camps: those that believe the model was that far off and that's all there is to it and those that believe that all of the distancing and isolation is the sole reason for the change in numbers. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

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Originally posted by Fenris:
So if an asymptomatic person is in a car crash, decapitated and shot in the head that is scored as a Wuhan kill?

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Originally posted by holdem:
I appreciate Trump's enthusiasm. And I agree, it must be open sooner rather than later. Come May 1st, the gears 100% have to start turning towards economic motion again.

But it will not boom before his re-election. Not a chance in hell. Too much damage has been done and getting this economy moving again will be a HUGE effort and take lots of time.