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ERJ- The John Hopkins site is showing 69.210 confirmed cases in U.S. right now and around 920 deaths. I think the CDC's website isn't updated as quickly.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/op...40299423467b48e9ecf6

Here's the other problem. The tests are very painful. A swab (like a Q-tip) has to be stuck extremely far up your naval cavity. And, the tests are $35-51 (that's COST for the lab) Each to do. I was talking to the owner of the lab that is doing just under 1800 tests a day for over 10% of the states. He has been a very good customer and friend of mine since 2011. The swab has to be tested by molecular testing and only 25 labs in the country are capable of doing the tests aside from Government labs.
 
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Here's the other problem. The tests are very painful. A swab (like a Q-tip) has to be stuck extremely far up your naval cavity. And, the tests are $35-51 (that's COST for the lab) Each to do. I was talking to the owner of the lab that is doing just under 1800 tests a day for over 10% of the states. He has been a very good customer and friend of mine since 2011. The swab has to be tested by molecular testing and only 25 labs in the country are capable of doing the tests aside from Government labs.



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https://www.startribune.com/un...d-19-test/569111292/
 
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The Coronavirus has greatly reduced auto traffic. I walk 4-5 miles most days here in metropolitan San Diego. Much easier to get across the intersections now.

I jaywalk. But I’m very cautious about auto traffic, and think that I’m safer than pedestrians that do observe the “Don’t Walk” signals, but then proceed across the street staring at their phone, oblivious of potential red light runners.



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The Coronavirus has greatly reduced auto traffic.
That's because the fear mongers and the know-nothing sensationlists have managed to screw up the economy over a big bunch of nothing. You heard me- a big bunch of nothing. Don't believe me? Read the stats in the Ann Coulter article on this page.
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We’ll get no BREAKING NEWS alerts for the regular flu deaths (so far this season, more than 23,000, compared to 533 from the coronavirus).

Nor for the more than 3,000 people who die every day of heart disease or cancer. No alerts for the hundreds who die each day from car accidents, illegal aliens and suicide.

Only coronavirus deaths are considered newsworthy.
Every day- EVERY DAY that you have been on this planet- every day, from the moment you popped out of the womb, you have been exposed to all sorts of microbes and viruses and bacteria and all manner of invisible bugs- a trillion trillion squared are on your body right now, and on the surfaces you touch and even the food you eat. Countless little beasties live in and on your body.

23,000 flu deaths, and not a peep from any of the alarmists- because it's normal. Day in, day out, for as long as Man has walked on this rock, influenza has killed a percentage of the human population. Normal. Unfortunate, but normal. Now, here comes a bug that has killed a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of that, and OHMYGOD!!!!!!!!!1111111 Roll Eyes

A big bunch of nothing, but, oh, all the "experts" are soooooo smart. Right? And people on TV are telling you it's bad. If they're on TV, they're smarter than you and have no personal or corporate-driven agenda. You can believe everything they say. So, the economy is fucked up flatter than hammered shit, but if it saves one life...

I'm so tired of hearing that stupid fucking shit. One life? This country has sent men to war at intervals throughout its entire existence. The very founding of this nation was built on human sacrifice, in the Revolutionary War.

Sorry, no. Wait, I'm not sorry- Just no. No, this "if it saves one life" horse shit is simply not true. No, it is not worth fucking up the lives of 300 million Americans in order to save "one life" so just cut the shit. It sounds great, but it's nothing but horse shit. It's just not true. There are days in American history when we sacrified thousands of lives in just one day. The larger American Civil War battles were murderous affairs- Shiloh, Antietam, et al. So, no, it's not worth it to screw up this entire nation if it saves just one life. Just stop spewing that nonsense.

We don't need to be quarantined and we certainly didn't need to shut the economy down. All these leftist state governors are all but climaxing over fucking up the lives of most people in their states. Hang a few of these assholes in front of the courthouse and the rest will get the idea. Short of that, they're just going to keep screwing with our lives.

Go where you want to go. Shake hands with people. Hug your friends. Eat out at restaurants when they reopen. Stop buying the metric ton of shit and lies that the news media is trying to force feed you. Nothing is wrong.

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Look at the Coulter article if you don't believe me. Go live your life and stop letting these politicians and reporters frighten you and your family. Imagine what kids must be thinking right now. This is simply, flat-out wrong and we have to stop this shit ASAP.
 
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Thanks Para.
I was starting to feel like I was the only one thinking this as I find that everyone around me is fully on board the panic train.
 
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Only coronavirus deaths are considered newsworthy....
How about the doctors who keep pointing out that the coronavirus is mainly a problem for people over 70 and those with specific health problems?

What if many of those people would have died anyway. What if the coronavirus doesn't meaningfully raise the overall death rate?
But we kill the economy anyway and borrow/print massive amounts of fiat dollars that causes further long-term damage?



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I was really looking forward to Barr tearing the Democrats a new one on 3/31 at the judiciary hearing. I put it on my calendar weeks ago before all this shit. Now it's postponed, dammit.



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We live in Naples FL, and it has been a ghost town on the roads here the past few mornings, though for some reason, this morning, it almost seemed normal with regards to traffic. It reminds me of a summer/off season day without the schools being open.

My wife and I both work from home anyway, so we are minimally impacted by the hysteria (so far).

I am glad to see the roads busy today. People want to work and have a life. We are doing take-away tomorrow night to support a local business.


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I get shit every day from someone because my office is open and running like normal. I tell them that we are taking the same precautions that we take every year during Flu season. Deep cleaning, hand washing and sanitizing.

The other companies in town that do what I do are CLOSED. Not the lobby. The whole business. I'm ramping up efforts to earn their customers' business and it is working.

I'll admit to buying in to the early zombie apocalypse predictions- not that it would but that it could. And I know mutations occur. I assume that the common cold or seasonal influenza could mutate also. I am more worried about a prion like "mad cow" or rabies coming to get me and reanimate the dead.


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When the book is written a decade from now, Para will be proven right. I think there are lessons to be learned. Like perhaps King Cuomo should have spent 530 million on ventilators in 2015 when he had the chance instead of giving 750 million dollars in credits for solar panels.





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When I bring up that COVID-19 is just a nasty flu with a higher death rate for elderly people hose me well here are figures that support Para:

In the USA 2017 -2018 flu cases were 45,000,000, flu deaths 61,000. Flu death rate 2017- 2018 0.1% mostly all elderly over 65. Flu is also highly contagious. So far in USA COVID-19 73,500 cases, COVID-19 deaths 1,065. COVID-19 death rate 1.4% mostly all elderly over 65. In order for COVID-19 to catch flu cases we would need 161,000 COVID-19 new cases per day every day until December 31, current new cases per day is 13,555. In order for COVID-19 to catch flu deaths we would need 215 COVID-19 new deaths per day every day until December 31, current new cases per day is 241. COVID-19 is not in the same mass killing league as influenza and will be gone in a month or so. Flu R0 is around 1.3 COVID-19 is around RO 2.0, about the same.


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When I bring up that COVID-19 is just a nasty flu with a higher death rate for elderly people hose me well here are figures that support Para:

In the USA 2017 -2018 flu cases were 45,000,000, flu deaths 61,000. Flu death rate 2017- 2018 0.1% mostly all elderly over 65. Flu is also highly contagious. So far in USA COVID-19 73,500 cases, COVID-19 deaths 1,065. COVID-19 death rate 1.4% mostly all elderly over 65. In order for COVID-19 to catch flu cases we would need 161,000 COVID-19 new cases per day every day until December 31, current new cases per day is 13,555. In order for COVID-19 to catch flu deaths we would need 215 COVID-19 new deaths per day every day until December 31, current new cases per day is 241. COVID-19 is not in the same mass killing league as influenza and will be gone in a month or so. Flu R0 is around 1.3 COVID-19 is around RO 2.0, about the same.


Can you provide on where you got those numbers? I would like to use them.
 
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We went through this when Obama was in office- the "bird flu". Why didn't we fuck up the economy and put Americans out of work back then, huh? You know the answer.

Reuters article from 2010:

Swine flu has killed up to 17,000 in U.S.

Seventeen thousand American deaths from that virus. What did you do during that economic shutdown? Oh, wait- WE DIDN'T FUCKING HAVE ONE!!

Figure it out.
 
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Heck, 80 die every year from lightning strikes in the US. We need a huge media drivin panic. Maybe we'll all need to wear a ground strap that touches Mother Earth like a tail.. Big Grin. Draggin our tails around.
 
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History will record this as mass hysteria. I believe I understand the politics of the situation and why the President had to initially go along, but this trillion dollar socialist train wreck is a huge mistake and the country never should have pretended to go on lockdown...it simply will not work here. The stores are packed and I'm sitting in traffic just like always.
 
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Thanks Para.
I was starting to feel like I was the only one thinking this as I find that everyone around me is fully on board the panic train.

Not everyone. There’s a lot of us that have been calling this a panic from day 1. And I think those that are panicking watch too much news. I watched about 10 minutes yesterday and it was non stop Wuhan Flu panic.


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Did they use ol'fashion street lamps as space ships in War of the Worlds? They looked awful like street lamps.
 
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When I bring up that COVID-19 is just a nasty flu with a higher death rate for elderly people hose me well here are figures that support Para:

In the USA 2017 -2018 flu cases were 45,000,000, flu deaths 61,000. Flu death rate 2017- 2018 0.1% mostly all elderly over 65. Flu is also highly contagious. So far in USA COVID-19 73,500 cases, COVID-19 deaths 1,065. COVID-19 death rate 1.4% mostly all elderly over 65. In order for COVID-19 to catch flu cases we would need 161,000 COVID-19 new cases per day every day until December 31, current new cases per day is 13,555. In order for COVID-19 to catch flu deaths we would need 215 COVID-19 new deaths per day every day until December 31, current new cases per day is 241. COVID-19 is not in the same mass killing league as influenza and will be gone in a month or so. Flu R0 is around 1.3 COVID-19 is around RO 2.0, about the same.


Can you provide on where you got those numbers? I would like to use them.


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