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Another blip- 490 fatalities, 24,324 reported cases. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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2% mortality rate is kinda creepy. But you ha e to wonder if it’s Chinese incompetence? Or does it have a chance at 2% mortality in the World of Western medicine. We don’t do well with metabolic disease, but we do really well with infectious disease. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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The mortality rate here will be way less than 1 percent. I read an article today that essentially stated the situation with healthcare in China is a shit show compared to the U.S. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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All the numbers from the Chinese are not real, if you don't get confirm with the disease and die it dont count, if you don't get to admit into the hospital it don't count, if you are confirmed with the disease but due to no room available and were sent home to die it don't count. I have post video link before to should how bad it is in China, feel sorry for the regular citizens over there but not a damn thing anyone in this world can do. Fucking CCP needed to be completely destroy | |||
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That I agree with. As much as we like to make China the bad guy, the Chinese that I have known personally are great folks to be around and I would never wish them any harm. | |||
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Tencent posted 25k deaths last Saturday. That's Friday here in the US, six days ago. WuFlu is doubling every 6 days. That means we can estimate death toll is now 50k deaths. This all makes sense given the death fog hovering over Wuhan from the crematoriums running 24/7 and the new "hospitals" actually being mere warehouses to store the dead and dying. No equipment. No staff. Hell that can't find staff and even facemasks for the regular hospitals. And we're supposed to believe they are fully staffing and equipping these new hospitals. It also explains why these new "hospitals" are made of concrete rather than emergency shelters like tent structures. Patients/prisoners can cut through a tent but not the concrete walls of these charnel houses. ~Fenris
The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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Placing credibility in a Taiwanese report on China is like looking to CNN for Trump truths. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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Its easy to label a 'body of people' as the boogeyman, its lazy and can border on being racially offensive, which as we've seen the last couple of years in this country, can easily 'trigger' the emotions. The crux in this case though, as it is with everything in China, its the CCP. They want to control everything, now they've got an entire population, with a epidemic, burgeoning to possible pandemic on their hands. Didn't learn with SARS, didn't learn with bird-flu, perhaps third time is a charm. | |||
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The report is from Taiwan. The data breach/leak is from Tencent, a major mainland company with deep ties to CCP. The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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It's obvious to anyone paying attention that the "official" numbers are bogus. Part of this, of course, is that they don't have enough testing kits to even test everyone so those don't count. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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But 25k a week ago and estimated 50k today is just crazy numbers. No wonder Beijing is being so ruthless trying to contain it. And crematorium smoke hanging over cities? Eerie. The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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I think that's a little over-dramatized. Chinese cities are among the worst in the world for air pollution and have been for years. How do the reporters differentiate crematorium smoke from normal pollution days like this one - they color-code the crematorium smoke??  This message has been edited. Last edited by: Georgeair, You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Certainly a possibility, but given the reduced economic activity, one would tend to expect pollution levels to go down, not up. You are probably right though about the German reference being over the top. The Nazis were disposing of the bodies of their victims. The Chinese are disposing of the bodies of the virus' victims. Big difference. I will amend my prior post. The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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The big question is was this an inadvertent (or even intentional release by a kind soul trying to get the truth out) dissemination of actual figures or simply a mistake. At this point, it’s even odds given the regimes propensity for hiding state information. With the extreme quarantine measures that have been put in place and the small amount of video getting out, one has to wonder what the truth is. World leaders need to step up and pressure China for transparency. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Whatever the truth is, I would expect whoever is responsible may soon suffer from acute lead poisoning. The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. | |||
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A link with additional info, including a picture of a phalanx of police surrounding an apartment building for a(reported) single infected family. https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...-spiraling-to-25000/ “Whatever the truth is, I would expect whoever is responsible may soon suffer from acute lead poisoning.” No doubt. For China postings on social media to go so dark so quickly is more than a little ominous. I’m sure the government is locking EVERYTHING down as best they can. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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I don't get into conspiracy theories nor have I been to China, but I have a hard time believing that a city of 11 million needed to build two hospitals to accommodate 20k infected. | |||
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Is it time to freak out yet? | |||
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I have been to China many times since 2011 and spent probably the equivalent of a couple years in country. Chinese are some of the most welcoming, friendly, and hospitable people I have ever met. It is very safe with very low violent crime, and I think that results in a sort of naïveté and trust that you don't see in many places. The people know the government lies to them and is obsessed with control, but unless they are dealing in land, or with a lot of money, or making anti-government noise, the government generally does not bother them. All kinds of things that are restricted or enforced here - drinking age and ID checks, traffic laws, street peddling, copyright law - are just not even bothered with because there are so many people. It's an interesting, complicated, and self-contradictory culture, with a mix of old imperial history, crappy soviet style buildings, new ultra modern architecture, really poor, ultra rich, and everything in between. Elements of 3rd, 2nd, and 1st world sometimes a short distance apart. Air pollution is bad, especially in Beijing, but new laws are clamping down hard. It's never boring, always interesting, and maddening at times - some things you just have to see and experience. Belief in mysticism and superstition is common, even among the educated, because China never had it's own enlightenment or discovery of the scientific method. The west has transplanted scientific thought, but because it didn't develop organically, various bad old habits die hard, and some of those habits do appear to be contributing to the spread of the virus. | |||
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