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See the post I made right before or as you were posting this question. They were classified when originated. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| Master of one hand pistol shooting  |
Plant a deflated football amongst her stuff.... | |||
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| Knows too little about too much  |
Yep. Thanks. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
I wonder if former Senator, Governor, SEAL Officer and MOH recipient Bob Kerrey would like to amend his statement from 1992: "Governor Clinton is an uncommonly good liar. Hillary, not so much!" Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Doubtful. He's just about as slimey as is she. President of the New School you know. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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That is a significant change. People should be shouting Spillage from the Roof Tops. Classified information touched that server; it must now be controlled. Same goes for the thumb drive that her aid was keeping the emails on. Side note: I still can't get past the point that it was acceptable for her to turn over 55,000 pages of emails, instead of just a hard drive of them in digital form. Bull shit of the highest form. The opinions expressed in no way reflect the stance or opinion of my employer. | |||
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| Info Guru |
It's an image of the letter that was sent to Congress. The contents have been verified by multiple media sources and wires - like Reuters, WaPo, Washington Times, etc. http://punditfromanotherplanet...s-email-revelations/ “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Once Hillary puts Huma behind the keyboard and points the bony finger at her they are getting close. Huma is just a layer of protection for Hillary and will be expendable when the time comes. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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She has already been referring to 'directing her team' to release the emails and the thumb drive, etc. She is going to play this as 'her team' at the State Dept told her that everything she was doing was completely legal and above board, thus any issues are the fault of 'the team' and not Hillary. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
This is a point I keep coming back to in my own head. Wouldn't using separate systems and keeping them separate be the easiest way to keep the two kinds of communication separate in Hillary's own head? "On this machine you exercise discipline in what you say, on that machine you can be chatty if you want to." And never mind little details like not leaking classified information, not having the FBI or a review panel ever have to go through private emails, etc., etc., etc. If you want a private life - and Hillary clearly wants to have some sort of private life - then keeping a separate set of communications systems would seem like the only logical way to go. | |||
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There is a video out there somewhere where Hillary stands on her resume and claims that she has the knowledge and experience to properly control classified material. Death by a million millstones. From there, I always go back to the fact that the 55,000 pages of emails provided to the State Department from her private server are only the dregs. I had thought that everything of import or scandal was pruned when she worked jointly with her aides to screen out the 'private' emails. That there was anything left to be found is just laughably sad. The opinions expressed in no way reflect the stance or opinion of my employer. | |||
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Come on guys, she knew exactly what she was doing - why do you think she set up her own server in the first place? It was done strictly for her convenience and so she could control who could see and access her emails. This was not her first rodeo - there was never any talk of securing classified information, she could care less about that - she was only interested in protecting her personal emails so she could deny any involvement in anything that went down on her watch. It's no more complicated than that. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Do, the argument that things she sent weren't classified at the time doesn't hold water either. there are a lot of things in my job where I'm the first person to stick a classified lable on it. The info is already classified by its nature, and if I took it home and showed my wife instead of labeling it I would be a criminal because I've been taught what kinds of material should be classified. That basic trust is something she should have known. Furthermore, it's worth noting her entire justification for a private system is bunk. Lots of general officers have access to secret phones or networks in their homes because they are in important positions and the government has paid to properly secure their home. I'm sure the Secretary of State could have legally gotten a SIPR connection at home. The only logical explanation for creating her own server then forwarding secret info to it was to hide her records, another violation of law. she committed crimes. | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
she's malevolent, but not stupid, and would likely avoid obvious missteps where something as simple as a label, category, or otherwise might hang her up. it may be as simple as her or her staff paraphrasing the gist of some subject in the course of regular emails. she reads some statement about Korea/etc on some hush hush server marked "super duper secret stuff" and simply conveys it in her own words in some quasi private email as she courts favors with some diplomat. and other similar scenarios. wrong just the same, but less mind boggling or requiring of jumping technical hoops - in terms of how it may have happened. | |||
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Well I guess Hillary has already placed Huma behind the keyboard. Just have to wait for the other shoe to drop. Sorry Huma you played a game with one ruthless hag and now you will pay the price. I lack the skills to cut and paste a pdf so I will provide the link. Link "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Yeah, but look at the tradeoff. Not only does she have one clunker of a scandal to try to cope with as well as the investigation/s that she had to know would be launched, she essentially made her private emails hostage to one stupid mistake or one rumor making the rounds in the media. Did she really think the media would be too delicate to look at her emails about her daughter's wedding? I mean, that's just dumb in multiple directions. Was she really too cheap to run two private servers? I understand the control aspect of it, but setting up two private servers can't be all that hard to do if you're willing to go to the trouble to set up one private server. I have no problem believing she was up to something. But she seems to have gotten kinda stupid a couple times along the way. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
For those who wonder why her highness hasn't been hauled before Congress and had the truth beaten out of her, this is beginning to look like how it is done. You just keep on chipping away, closing off avenues of perhaps plausible but misdirected information, trapping the subject in little errors of incorrect information, verifying details, taking advantage of new leads. The longer this goes on, the more she will have to explain, all of which will be mutually contradictory, no loopholes to slither out of. They know she is lying. Now the trap must be carefully laid. This isn't her first rodeo, after all. It will be torture, she knows the exposure and the stakes. By the time the trap is ready, she will be so apprehensive, it will seem like a release to get it over with. As I have said, and seen, it is sometimes hard to get the wheels of justice turning, and they turn slowly, but once they are turning, it can be awfully hard to get thrm stopped, or diverted. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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What about her attorney who, apparently was in possession of classified material on the thumb drives? I doubt he had proper level security clearances, much less the more restrictive "need to know" justification to have access to these documents. So, why wasn't he arrested? No one is above the law? Yeah they are. | |||
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That won't work. Everyone that has access to classified material has to go through periodic training that explains all of their responsibilities as well as the law and punishments. She would have been required to go through the training, they don't get excused from it. That dog don't hunt. | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
The more this news comes out, the more people see her as shady and dishonest and her favorability and likability ratings continue to plummet. I'm enjoying the hell out of it! I've had this gut feeling for months now that Hillary is NOT ON THE BALLOT come November 2016. It's going to be Biden or Warren or someone else. | |||
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