Anyone who lives near large cities containing large numbers of people on public assistance, be warned: If the grid goes down for a couple of months, over a large enough area, like the Eastern seaboard, there will be mayhem after just a few weeks. Imagine no {everything in the corner bodega} after a few days. No cash, no EBT, no fuel, sporadic public transportation. They will be coming for your rice and beans, your whiskey, wine, and women. Lethal force is a justifiable response to arson of an occupied structure and mayhem. When the gangs think they will clear an occupied structure by starting a fire, protect without prejudice.

Thank God for standing-pilot atmosphere venting water heaters and gravity-flow water distribution systems. On well water? Solar backup or generator. Or a 1500 gallon tank on stilts in the shed will provide limited gravity-flow water.

Just another survival tip

This was nothing more than an equipment failure.

The coverage was absurd, two full days. No one outside of NYC gives a shit about NYC.

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
The coverage was absurd, two full days. No one outside of NYC gives a shit about NYC.

This news "event" was the equivalent to online clickbait. A cheap, easy way to garner eyeballs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZWA_cw9tss

Not a big deal out here in the country. If I can source gasoline, I can live a long time. And I don't need that much gas. Run the gen to run the well pump, run the gen to recharge the fridges.

That's only a couple of gallons per day at most. Will it be inconvenient, and somewhat uncomfortable in summer? Hell yes it will. But I'll have water, my food won't spoil, and I can cook.

In addition, I have bought cheap, stacked deep, and am surrounded by folks who think like I do and have largely done the same.

I wouldn't want to be in a big city, and from the perspective of a big city, that panicky article makes some sense. But it's bullshit out here. And I'm not all that far out.

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I didn't realize it was only 72K people.

The reporting on this issue sucked, I believe that's actually 72k customers.
Which in that section of NYC would be a lot more that 72k people. 1 customer might be a household of 5, or a multistory building...

I was amused by this reporting on the blackout.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/15/...during-power-outage/

Democrat political fratricide. Keep it up boys.

Yeah, right. Note that our grid is below ground. Blackouts are much rarer than in areas where the lines run above ground and are routinely taken out by tree limbs.

Note how man people here talk about wanting, getting, and using backup generators, because blackouts are somewhat routine in storms. That isn't an issue here.

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Originally posted by rscalzo:
The problem with the NY City electrical grip is that it's ancient and ineffective. This is not the first time and it won't be the last they suffer these blackouts.

If you really want to have your socks scared off read "One Second After" by William R. Forstchen.

If that's not enough then read the rest of the trilogy; "One Year After" and "The Final Day."

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by maladat:
After Harvey, my neighborhood didn't have power for two weeks. Somehow there wasn't mass hysteria and blood running in the streets.

Most of Houston was without power for at least a few days.

What is your population density? I'm guessing it's not 30,000+ per square mi?. Major cities rely on a lot of shit going right 98% of the time to function.

Sorry, I misspoke. I meant Ike, not Harvey.

Houston is not especially dense, but the greater Houston area still has seven million people.

After Ike, more than two million homes and businesses were without power in the Houston area, most for days or weeks. Literally 99% of Centerpoint Energy's (the power grid operator) end users in Houston were without power.

The article in the OP is about an outage that affected 73,000 people for a much shorter amount of time, and it is using it as an example to raise awareness about blackouts in general, not blackouts exclusively in NYC. The outage in Houston after Ike was literally almost 100 times that size.

We had no power for 2 weeks with Ike. Luckily I had friends with generators.

No power for 3 days with Harvey (and luckily, no flooding).

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Originally posted by TXJIM:
I can skin a buck and run a trotline......

Unless you do it Tonto style, NY wants to take away your ability to do even that.

If a blackout hits for an extended period, say 15 years, I'm going to carve out a section of Pennsylvania into my own PASig Republic and rule with an iron fist at my HQ in Philly, surrounded by hordes of militiamen with muskets...oh wait, that's the TV series Revolution!

I've lost power 7 times since November. November was 8 days! Most are 1 to 6 hours. I live a 10 minute WALK from a Mall. A McDonalds, three banks. A Grocery store, churches, hundreds, maybe thousands of houses. NOT in the sticks. In suburbia.

I bought a tiny generator. I'll be ok for a few weeks if need be..

the added bonus is de Blah-zio is getting some grief for conveniently being absent after calling out his predecessor about being AWOL


its so much fun to see them being cannibalistic

Numbers, numbers. Me too, back during Ike, our electricity went down. So my wife and I got in my jeep and drove out to the plant, just to check on it. The intrusion alarm was sounding. Seems like the locals didn't much care, they had folks to check on, not companies. So I went in and shut the alarm off (annoying). Checked the alarm log and found the lightly used garage was the culprit. So we drove around and discovered the doors were all ajar. Terrible. I opened them and discovered nothing amiss, so I closed them. Then reset the alarm, called the locals and told them, then the owner figuring he'd care. Not really. So I figured I was the fool for caring.

So I drove home to discover our power was still out. Then it came back on, no big deal. Total time out was 3 hours. That was over a decade ago. No problems since.

I feel so left out.

Ever since we got the backup generator to the off grid solar system that drives the house dialed in (about 13 1/2 years ago), power issues at the house have been very rare. The few that have cropped up have been easily fixed in minutes.

PG&E power driving the main entry gate, the barn, and the wells has been an entirely different ball of wax. This year was particularly bad with a bumper crop of wild turkeys roosting in the oak trees on the ridge just south of the lines, the flying down into the field and running into one leg knocking it into another and blowing the fuses for both phases. For a while there we were running two to three outages a week and got on a first name basis with all four of the local troublemen. Finally they convinced corporate to reframe the line, installing kingpins to raise the center leg four feet above the other two. The coyotes are bummed because they aren’t getting any more fried turkey, but it is nice to have gone a while without a utility outage.

Well, you could buy some land in rural Arizona, invest in solar, buy several large water storage tanks and get started.

Seems there is a member here who has a handle on that.