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Focus on Dreamers breeds resentment from other immigrants here illegally

by Cindy Carcamo and Brittny Mejia Contact Reporters
Feb 18, 2018

Ever since Sam Paredes crossed into the U.S. illegally from Mexico nearly 30 years ago, he followed a simple philosophy of keeping his head down and trying to stay out of trouble.

The 39-year-old put in long hours for little pay as an office manager at a clothing wholesaler. He paid his taxes and hoped that after many years of waiting, there would come an immigration reform that would grant him a pathway to becoming an American citizen.

But one glimmer of hope afforded many young immigrants escaped him: Because the New York resident came too long ago, he did not qualify for immigration relief under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, better known as DACA.

Now he watches as the White House and Congress continue to grapple and negotiate and argue — but at least talk about — the future of the so-called Dreamers.

“I’m very bitter. These DACA kids definitely have this sense of entitlement,” Paredes said. “People fought for them and they got DACA and they got their work permit and then they went to sleep, instead of working to fight for the rest of us.”

As the Senate has debated immigration in a race to come up with a plan that would win bipartisan support, the future for Dreamers has gained even more prominence. What to do about DACA helped to spark a brief federal government shutdown and prompted Democratic House minority leader Nancy Pelosi to give an eight-hour and seven-minute speech.

Even President Trump has occasionally softened his frequently harsh, hard-line immigration tone when talking about Dreamers. In a tweet, the president said, “Republicans want to fix DACA far more than the Democrats do.”

On Wednesday, Trump pushed senators to oppose any bill that did not support his tough approach to immigration, including closing the country’s doors to many immigrants who want to come to the U.S. legally. The move came a day after a second federal judge issued an injunction ordering his administration to continue the DACA program — a decision the Trump administration wants reversed.

Senators failed to reach a bipartisan bill on the future of the young immigrants and border security. The defeat of the bills in the Senate makes it increasingly likely that no legislative solution for DACA will happen this year, although some senators say they may try for a short-term extension of the program.

But the Dreamers will continue to loom front and center in the debate over immigration, no matter what.

There are many reasons Dreamers have moved to the center of the debate about illegal immigration. Many say they are here illegally through no fault of their own, brought as children by their parents. Many Dreamers have gone on to college and public service, making them ideal poster children in the debate.

But the focus on Dreamers has caused tension between those in the community who can qualify for DACA and those who cannot.

Alessandro Negrete, 35, was getting ready for a night out in downtown Los Angeles recently when one of his friends worried aloud about Trump taking away the protection he got from the DACA program.

Negrete, a public relations worker, was 3 months old when a smuggler carried him from Mexico into the United States. Too old now to apply to become a Dreamer, he said he cannot help but feel resentment at how much attention the plight of this one segment of the immigrant community is receiving while people like him seem to get so little.

“You think you have it hard?” he angrily told his friend. “You at least have legal status. For some people like me, my mom and some of my neighbors, we don’t have [that].”

Earlier this month, Hilario Yanez, a DACA recipient and immigrant rights activist, went on the TV show “Fox & Friends” and expressed his support for Trump’s legislation, stating that he believed the president has shown “leadership and compassion toward” him and other Dreamers.

“Here’s a guy who wants to provide a pathway to citizenship for myself and really make a difference in my life,” said Yanez, a technology analyst at Accenture Technology in Houston.

Yanez drew praise from many conservative immigration hawks — including right-wing media outlets, such as Breitbart.

At the same time it sparked outrage in the immigrant rights movement, with some saying that Yanez embodies the extreme stereotype of entitlement among some DACA recipients.

Karla Estrada, a DACA recipient and longtime immigrant rights activist who lives in Los Angeles, said Yanez’s comments come as no surprise.

“For months now, everyone has been freaking out. As things have been getting ugly and desperate, the divide between DACA recipients has become more prevalent,” Estrada said.

One group wants clean legislation that will provide a pathway to legalize DACA recipients but with no strings attached, such as doing away with the visa lottery. The second group is willing to take whatever they can get as long as they get some sort of immigration relief, Estrada said.

Although Estrada is lobbying for legislation with no strings attached, she said she’s trying hard to understand why other DACA recipients would be willing to compromise.

“I truly believe that desperation has led some of us to the degree, I’m hoping, of temporary insanity. They see no other option They see no other door,” she said. “It’s very disheartening and sad. We’re supposed to be a united community and we obviously are not.”

The divisions have increasingly sprung up in social media outlets, such as Facebook forums used by DACA immigrant youth.

Some argue that DACA recipients should settle for whatever Trump can give them because the alternative would be life without work permits. They have bills to pay and mouths to feed, they say. Other DACA recipients said they refuse to support legislation that will help them if it means it will hurt loved ones, including parents.

One of the large issues during the negotiations over the bipartisan bill the past few weeks was that Dreamer organizations were reluctant to sign onto any bill that would protect their status but not protect their parents or other family members. It was a major reason three Democratic senators voted against a compromise bill.

The question of who should be allowed to become members of American society has historically been contested, provoking divisions even among movements that seem otherwise unified like immigrant rights, said Leo R. Chavez, a professor of anthropology who focuses on immigration at UC Irvine.

In the late 1800s, the Chinese Exclusion Act did not allow for Chinese immigrants to become U.S. citizens. Similarly, while western and northern Europeans were favored to become naturalized, the U.S.-born children of southern and eastern European immigrants were considered “too foreign,” Chavez said.

“A lot of these people were seen as swarthy and likely to change the complexion of America,” he said.

Although DACA is slated to end in March, activists and legislators, including some Republicans, have rallied to support the program.

This comes at a time when many of the country’s approximately 11 million immigrants in the country illegally feel painted as criminals and DACA recipients are being leveraged by the Trump administration to achieve concessions from Democrats on stricter border security and tougher immigration enforcement.

Some immigration-enforcement hard-liners say they hold a soft spot for DACA recipients because they were brought at a young age. But many are not pleased with Trump’s plan to legalize them.

“He ran on a platform to build the border wall and strong border security. So it was an unpleasant surprise to border control activists, like myself,” said Robin Hvidston, executive director of We the People Rising, a Claremont organization that lobbies for stricter immigration enforcement. “President Trump never mentioned this plan while he was campaigning for votes.”

If DACA legislation does pass, Hvidston said she believes it’s only a matter of time before that group then advocates for those left out.

“The overall impression is that DACA recipients are the champions of those here illegally,” she said.

The lives of immigrants who benefit from DACA and those who don’t are very often intimately intertwined.

Sandra Hernandez, 46, runs a money-remittance business in Lincoln Heights. She said she is grateful that her 19-year-old son is a DACA recipient. Hernandez also has a 12-year-old son who was born in the U.S. and a 16-year-old daughter who qualified for the program but did not apply before the deadline.

Hernandez, who has lived illegally in the U.S. for 15 years, said she currently can’t remedy her legal status but is hopeful that she someday will.

Javier Hernandez Kistte, a 27-year-old DACA recipient who lives in South L.A., said he is relatively new to the immigrant rights movement, partially propelled by the guilt he feels about qualifying for a protection that is out of reach for others, including his parents.

Shortly after Trump rescinded DACA, he visited his parents who are in the country without legal status. He broached the topic at the family’s kitchen table.

“I can guarantee things will get a lot more difficult in the coming years,” he told his mother, Vania Kistte, and father. “So we, as a family, need to think about what we are going to do.”

He said his mother told him that she and his father would be fine returning to Mexico “as long as I know you kids will be OK.”


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“I’m very bitter. These DACA kids definitely have this sense of entitlement,” Paredes said. “People fought for them and they got DACA and they got their work permit and then they went to sleep, instead of working to fight for the rest of us.”

Puedes llorar todo lo que quieras. (Translation from Google for "Cry me a river.")
 
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In 39 years, why has he not himself initiated actions to become a citizen? Could he not use an out-of-country contact or address to do so?

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Cry me a river...rat vs. rat.




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I have a neighbor who came here illegally 30-40 years ago. She managed to get an immigration lawyer to help her with the paperwork ($700, I think) and get legal some 20 years ago. So it can be done. If you’re here and illegal for more than 10 years, I have ZERO sympathy for you. It can be done legally and there’s probably free help these days to get it done. If you haven’t then either you’re just plain lazy OR there’s a lack of ‘give a shit’ and you don’t mind breaking the law.


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They ARE criminals.

The idiocy is astounding.
 
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So, you've been breaking our laws for 30 years, and you're upset that others are getting more attention for breaking our laws?

What kind of bizzaro world is this?




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Say the DACA issue is settled. The activists will no go away. They can focus on this guy and demand amnesty. They can also present some adorable kids that aren't DACA eligible as they arrived after 2012. Believe me, DACA won't settle much.



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maybe ICE can go pay him a visit and put him at ease by expediting his deportation



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Say the DACA issue is settled. The activists will no go away. They can focus on this guy and demand amnesty. They can also present some adorable kids that aren't DACA eligible as they arrived after 2012. Believe me, DACA won't settle much.


It will...only if we get the border secure, an end to chain migration and Visa lottery at the same time.

With a secure border, DACA recipients get their cookie and we can debate what to do with the rest of them at our leisure with no more coming in.

If DACA happens w/o securing the border it will be the Dems wet dream as millions pour in seeking that next "amnesty" bill or just getting in before it gets secure...

Selfishly, any illegal should be for securing the border and a DACA pathway. That is their best bet IMO.




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The die has been cast. DACA is just the icing on the cake for the finish.

Enjoy the next 8 years (if we are fortunate enough to even have those). The demographics for socialism are in place and the votes are coming.

For the Democrats.

Not that the Republicans are much better, anymore.

E-Verify was tossed for a reason.

The commission on voter fraud disbanded.
 
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In 39 years, why has he not himself initiated actions to become a citizen? Could he not use an out-of-country contact or address to do so?

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There's no action possible for an illegal alien to become legal in the US short of a law passing amnesty.

The only way, I believe, is you marry a U.S. citizen to qualify for a green card. Then you go before immigration and they're going to probe whether the marriage is genuine or just a way for you to stay. They do that with any foreigner marrying a US citizen.



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Cry me a river...rat vs. rat.


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How does he pay taxes?




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I dream that they all go back to where they belong and become leaders in that country, join their family, discover their roots and pay back the taxpayers for their healthcare, and education costs.


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I also would like to know how he pays taxes. Oh, and what the hell is a "money remittance business"?

This has all gotten so crazy.



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E-Verify was tossed for a reason TREASON.

The commission on voter fraud disbanded.


fixed it for ya...


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Thank you.

E-verify not being made mandatory is insanity.
 
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